I"m actually not surprised. This is kind of what gave Justin such longstandning lead I believe. I feel bad for Canada to have to go through this because of Trump escalation. But I'm not exactly certain that Canada would just go with a more helpful agenda toward the USA had Trump been more neutral. It seems like a country pretty set in its Euro leaning roots. At least at the time of this US Presidential transition.
@Margery, would you think there was a real shot at conservative rule in Canada after Justin? I believe in general there are conservative concerns in the country. But isn't the majority of Canada left leaning regardless what Trump does though?
to your question "would you think there was a real shot at conservative rule in Canada after Justin?"
Absolutely not now. There was!
Trump would have been fine if he'd stuck to the tariffs on the drugs/migrant thing. He'd have been fine if all he did was renegotiate the Free Trade Treaty. We were ready to make concessions.
UNTIL Trump mentioned the 51st State thing, annexing Canada.
Lest you think he is joking, (I did at first) he is NOT!
He said in an interview (that has gotten a fair bit of air time up here), that his plans are to crush us economically then take over.
He's backed that up with MULTIPLE comments about how he needs to re draw our border and plans to take our water (Columbia River Treaty stuff) to pipe it down south to California without our permission(the last time I was there, cali still hadn't figured out how to install water saving toilets or how to conserve rain water)
When that happened the polls went from a sure victory with plenty of margin for Pierre Poilievre (who is Conservative) who would be quite ok with taking out any unfairness and renegotiating anything that bugs Donald
to being a slam dunk for the Liberals under Carney (Justin on steroids) who is painting himself as Canada's last hope.
It's WAY BEYOND trolling Trudeau! (most of Canada loved it when that was all it was, but then Trump's later remarks proved it's no joke- you probably don't hear that feed much in the States)
We have people worrying about Americans invading and there is quite a lot of support across Canada for anything to send a strong message to Trump to back off the plans for takeover. (I don't think troops will be involved, Trump plans to simply break us financially)
It's even pulled Alberta back into Canada along with the perpetually separatist Quebec. That has NEVER happened.
Alberta has joined the other provinces and territories in a number of actions in response to Trump's threat.
All American made alcohol from beer to hard liquor is off our shelves across the country.
Right now in the grocery stores up here the stores have helpfully marked Canadian goods and produce and stuff from Mexico, Peru, Europe etc. Canada FIRST then anywhere BUT the USA is the general rule for shopping now.
The stores have placed American goods on the bottom shelves, and where they missed something, there is a movement among shoppers who find an American product to turn it upside down along with several others of the same type to alert other shoppers that it's American.
It's hurting some American firms who employ Canucks - like Walmart or Canadian made stuff from American firms. I see Canadian owned and operated now on the signs outside fast food places for example. I don't shop much of that, but I was out to the drugstore this morning and was startled to see a huge sign outside A&W burgers saying that and "we use Canadian beef".
The govt is looking at cancelling the purchase of the Lockheed F35's that we ordered, and going with the Swedish Gripen in our defense spending. That is on the table along with a boycott of American made cars and equipment in favour of Japanese or other imports.
That car market boycott thing is big. One of the reasons for the Canadian factories was the fact we buy a huge amount of American cars. That looks like it will be changing soon.
People here are VERY VERY angry that Trump would not only consider taking Canada, but have the gall to explain his plans to do so.
Make no mistake, his plan to economically break us first, THEN annex us is now considered a serious threat so we are pulling together for the first time in history, where the French, the native bands, the ROC (rest of Canada) and Alberta are all on the same page.
The Liberals under Trudeau/Carney didn't have a hope of re-election- Now it looks like they will take home a sure majority.
It is sad because Trump miscalculated on this (unless my fellow Canucks are right, and it was all part of his plan) and the party (Conservatives) under Pierre Poilievre who would be most friendly to sensible economic stuff and increasing defence spending (and probably buying more of those American made Lockheed F-35's) are not going to win.
I think Trump is right that what he just did is going to kill us economically- and if it goes downhill as fast as I think Carney is capable of, he just might get his wish- annexing Canada before his term is over.
It is WAY more serious up here than your news is reporting.
I know that isn't going to be easy to hear, but that is the climate up here right now.
As for the French, we have always had somewhat of an easy trade agreement with France, they are never going to be our main trading partner, but I expect to see us trying to find other markets for our exports.
Currently I think we supply 1/3 of your domestic consumption of oil, but we do need to change that, and I think under Trump you should be able to get your oil production back up shortly. We always should have refined here at home, not sent out south at a discount to be refined, then sold back to us at a higher rate.
Ditto Steel and Aluminum which Europe might be interested in. We have LONG since needed to sell our timber elsewhere and sell it dressed, not raw. Uranium and rare earth stuff always has a market. We sell most of our grain overseas anyway. In an odd way, this does us a favour- gets us moving to find other markets.
Normally I like Trump, I enjoy his sense of humour, I think he is good for America.
In a funny opposite sort of way, it's also good for Canada. It's pulled us together from west to east in a way that has NEVER been done.
And something that should have been done years ago is Canada being financially independent from America.
No more free trade agreements. Buy and sell when it's convenient, otherwise go our separate ways. Everybody stands on their own 2 feet.
So if we can survive economically - this might be an unexpected benefit to Canada, but I fully expect Carney to waste this opportunity and go further down the socialist idiocracy hole.
Meanwhile as always if you get into a problem, we will be at your side- maybe not flying F-35s- they might be Swedish Gripens but ordinary Canadians still love their US counterparts, just not Donald Trump's plans to annex Canada.
And if you like your potash (the K in NPK fertilizer) then you might see a price adjustment. He's pointed out frequently that we don't have anything America needs- and the 2 places on the planet that produce potash in any appreciable amounts are Canada and Belarus. The way to mine potash takes 5 or 6 years to get going, if you can find a deposit.
That is necessary for American farmers to produce grain and other food grown in the soil or feeds for animals. It is a VITAL part of making commercial fertilizer in industrial quantities.
It's a whole new world out there, and old ways are being shaken up.
Prepping us for the Trib if you ask me.
Folding Canada and Mexico and probably Greenland and Central America into the USA before the next American president who will likely then make this a zone of the whole 10 kings thing.
We go first, you swallow us up, then you get absorbed into the globalist dream.