Marjorie Taylor Greene Issues Warning To Trump Over Epstein — Here's What Other Republicans Are Saying

[TCC]

Marjorie Taylor Greene Warns Trump ‘The Base Will Turn’ If He Doesn’t Release Epstein Files

Greene made the comments after Trump instructed the Justice Department to release grand jury testimony in the Jeffrey Epstein case, rather than the entirety of its findings.

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“You must take down every enemy of The People. If not. The base will turn and there’s no going back,” Greene tweeted Monday.

The tweet came after Trump last week instructed the Justice Department to release grand jury testimony in its Epstein probe in an apparent attempt to placate critics revolting against the agency’s decision not to release any more information.

Greene said “dangling bits of red meat no longer satisfies. They want the whole steak dinner and will accept nothing else,” she wrote, without naming Trump.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I'm part of that Base and won't be turning regardless of how the Epstein issue finishes.

 

[Matthew6:33]

If we turn from Trump, where would we go? I guess Bernie, Omar, or Cortez would always accept us into their open loving arms. Come on Marjorie get real!

 

[TCC]

I can understand how some might feel concerning Trump. I often get frustrated by him. Personally for me i don't believe there can be any movement in American politics that will be able to rival what Trump has ventured to do and how far he has been able to do it. My reason for posting it is as a social artifact landmark along the way. In my mind i can think "Trumps whole base might turn from him." Or i might think, "The mid terms are doomed if Trump goes this direction or that direction." And i have had some of those thoughts. But since Trump is on the road he is and has been, and how it contrasts so much of whatever else has been tried, or other ideas that are out there, I don't see this so much as whether America might abandon Trump or not. I see it as a season of what a nation like ours needs to go through.

I'm grateful for Majorie Taylor Greene's take because to me what it represents is a voice of the people. Perhaps on one level it is grand standing, or power brokering. But what I have seen over the years is an America that has kind of lost its sense that we are the people are the government. Not that it is a democracy in that sense. But that by the people, of the people is constitutional. We are a republic. But in our corporate mindset it would seem we have gotten a little used to outsourcing our sense of the constitution. One of the reasons I like An0maly on Youtube is the pulse he has on this nation. That we can tend to be easily lead by politicians. In Trumps case we certainly have seen how outsourcing can become idolizing. So I see her contentions as actually very healthy for the country. Not necessary that we should all adopt what Greene's conviction is. Sure, she could be used by the opposition to unermind the conservative voice in America by weakening Trump's base potentially. Yes we are a republic. And our elected officals are there to represent the will of the people. And that should come with support of course. But we are a constitutional republic.

And with that, for America we might have forgotten the art of the deal of what it is to be a constitutional republic. The living and breathing reality of the most powerful nation in world history does constitutionally have the role of holding our officials feet to the fire when necessary. And i just see that as a healthy thing and theme we have tended to offload perhaps that responsibility too onto the elected officials themselves. They won't hold themselves accountable for us. The reason we have gotten to a congress and senate etc. that has for deeply setup shop to enrich themselves as a rule and way of life and we all just keep chugging along like that over that cliff with them is because, I believe, a truncation of our sense of who we as a people in a constitutional republic are. Not realizing that and not operating in that role breeds not just a doner class, but a self enriching ruling class.

As an example of that, I had seen recently an investment business that legally monitors Nancy Pelosi and other officials in how they invest in the market. Since they are often profiting from insider information (an illegal but normally accepted practice in government). And that investment business of course is doing very well. But is also a commentary in how America has become somewhat like children allowing our parents to Runamuck. So I think voices of holding officials to account is actually healthy red-white-and blue blood flow.

. . . . .

The other way i see this is the episode where Trump after overcoming impossible odds is president yet again. And the country and the world has seen severe adversity upon him. Yet he triumphs. Now, to me, its just the episode where Trump also overcomes potential party division. So to me, its not so much how i might feel that he might lose support or that we lose the midterms because of Trump losing support. Rather, I just see this as a period in his presidency where he triumphs over division. Because it seems to have become clear that whatever else Trump is or is not, he has providentially been demonstrated as the triumphant one. In my estimation, we will win the midterms in the house and senate majority. Because I would see we live in a time and day when Israel is in some form of a cue God providentially is overseeing. And for the past many decades, God has largely used America to stand in that balance for Israel. And God has providentially been using America as well too in this way--particularly with the Abraham Accords. But of course also in other ways too. I'm no prophet, but that writing is clearly on the wall. It might be a lot longer of a road to hoe than we might think. but if it is to gain speed in the near term, the midterms would have to be secured to enable America to further remain a strong force for Israel support in a world often (like the UN) very contrary toward Israel.

In a day and age where Evangelicalism itself is rife with ministry views that believe that since we don't see America in bible prophecy the smart money is on there not being an America. So the tendency in Evangelism is to "watch" with having America tanking in mind. And thinking this to be spiritual insight into prophecy. Whereas I would just see that as opinion selling us on some ethereal notion that we might be spiritual tracking prophetically to run with that. In one way that is fine to have that conviction. To have it as to hold. But it is such a deeply held given that I notice we can end up looking at this that and the other thing as though whatever happens, what we know for sure is that Ameica has to tank. So we see many things through this grid and keep chugging along like that. Where in stead i would just think it is healthy of course to have a conviction if that is where we think it is going, but to also consider other potentials in case we might be off. In Evangelicalism, i don't see that healthy tension all that much, but rather a running on opinion. My view too is opinion. But it is also a conviction. A conviction I hold and defend. But a conviction that considers others possibilities. But i don't see the watcher world in media considering things like that. But kind of writing the script as we go. And its not that i don't think there is not an actual script. I would just be interpreting that script differently. One where America conquers because we have been being shown that for years now. No futurne telling here...lol. Just looking at what providence is likely indicating. If that makes sense? Blessings.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I'm grateful for Majorie Taylor Greene's take because to me what it represents is a voice of the people.

She has a pretty good head on her shoulders but sometimes her thoughts don't resonate with a majority of the conservative base. Her thoughts with regards to the Epstein mess is one of those times, I believe. The MAGA leaning folks don't really have anywhere else to go and Trump is doing marvelous things for the country. A sub-group may not be happy, but they're not going anywhere.

Steve Bannon is another who thinks he's the voice of MAGA but he's so far off so often that I've muted/blocked him on GETTR where he has a pretty big presence.

 

[Andy C]

If there was any credible damaging info to this whole Epstein story, it would have come out years ago.

If Maxwell had any credible info/dirt, she would of made a deal before or during her trial.

If Epstein had a ‘list”, he would of used it before his trial for a lenient sentence.

The democrats slow walked this whole story, and is now using it to get uninformed members of the Trump base to doubt the President.

 

[TCC]

She has a pretty good head on her shoulders but sometimes her thoughts don't resonate with a majority of the conservative base. Her thoughts with regards to the Epstein mess is one of those times, I believe. The MAGA leaning folks don't really have anywhere else to go and Trump is doing marvelous things for the country. A sub-group may not be happy, but they're not going anywhere.

Steve Bannon is another who thinks he's the voice of MAGA but he's so far off so often that I've muted/blocked him on GETTR where he has a pretty big presence.

Greene used to be Qanon. I suspect it is hard to get that out of her blood. lol. She has heart and spunk. But I get what you are saying. She can be a burger with a bit too much cheese on it. But her heart toward those in prison from Jan 6 was awesome. And, to my objection, lol, she rallied for Macarthy as speaker because Trump wanted him but it just felt dirty. Swampy. NIce to see independent thought under the MAGA roof. I used to be into Bannon. But have not really paid all that much attention in the last few years with him. Can I ask what is about Bannon that you don't like so much? I am just not familiar too much with where he goes on issues too much.

I just like to see activitly living breathing care for the country. If we have to disagree with Trump, so be it. But I agree with you brother that MAGA won't fracture enough to matter. Blessings.

 

[TCC]

If there was any credible damaging info to this whole Epstein story, it would have come out years ago.

If Maxwell had any credible info/dirt, she would of made a deal before or during her trial.

If Epstein had a ‘list”, he would of used it before his trial for a lenient sentence.

The democrats slow walked this whole story, and is now using it to get uninformed members of the Trump base to doubt the President.

Yes on the last item. But I believe either Epstein was killed or is still alive. So if killed, he would have probably given more info which would be why he was killed. I'm not sure how you could say though, "If Maxwell had any credible info she would have used it to make a deal" though. Although Andy it is somewhat a reasonable point...because why would she not have earlier? Makes sense on one level. But her imprisonment does not make sense that she would not have offered some deal. Which leads me to believe Epstien is not actually dead. Because she would be the one with the most info after Jeffrey. But what, to me, makes less sense is that Maxwell would not have credible info though being the one most in the know all those years. Whatever she knows, she knows. By credible do you mean nothing damaging to global heads of state? Or higher ups? If indeed Epstein was in the blackmail market, those details would be high octane level and would be mired in red tape all over the place though. However that might be related, would not just be low hanging fruit for social consumption.

Well, in any event, of course I could be off all over the place. But what makes the most sense to me is the optic this scenario portrays. Epstein dead and Maxwell with a very long sentence. Both of those project the optic that the government did not get any details. For how that might serve on a number of levels in the blackmail market would not be discernable at our levels. What is though is Epstein's bank accounting Is still moving millions. lol. Whatever that means. Blessings.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Can I ask what is about Bannon that you don't like so much?

I've muted him out of my life for a while now so can't give you specifics as I don't remember them. Generally speaking, he would push ideas that I thought were pretty bad, and he'd push and push. Oh, I remenber one: a third Trump term.

 

[Matthew6:33]

Bannon is anti-semitic which is part of the woke right (Carlson, Owens, etc.)

 

[Hol]

I've muted him out of my life for a while now so can't give you specifics as I don't remember them. Generally speaking, he would push ideas that I thought were pretty bad, and he'd push and push. Oh, I remenber one: a third Trump term.

I recently stopped listening to Bannon because he’s pushy and his zeal for President Trump is excessive.

Maybe it’s my imagination, but several R. Catholic commentators seem overly pushy lately. A man who was an FBI whistleblower, Kyle Seraphim, a RC has a podcast I had to stop listening to because he’s pushy—unlike two of his fellow whistleblowers Steve Friend and Garret O’Boyle who are Protestant.

 

[Matthew6:33]

I recently stopped listening to Bannon because he’s pushy and his zeal for President Trump is excessive.

Maybe it’s my imagination, but several R. Catholic commentators seem overly pushy lately. A man who was an FBI whistleblower, Kyle Seraphim, a RC has a podcast I had to stop listening to because he’s pushy—unlike two of his fellow whistleblowers Steve Friend and Garret O’Boyle who are Protestant.

RC theology is unfortunately plagued with replacement theology and other bad doctrines which affects everything else.

 

[dwb]

The people have a need for justice and for evil to be punished. Once that is taken away, our system which is based on Christian values, is no longer sustainable. The Christian values part is why the left hates our country so much.

 

[TCC]

I've muted him out of my life for a while now so can't give you specifics as I don't remember them. Generally speaking, he would push ideas that I thought were pretty bad, and he'd push and push. Oh, I remenber one: a third Trump term.

Thanks brother. Even if there was a way for Trump to get a third term, I'm not so sure that Trump would stay on. He has the right amount of energy now. But even though he has a huge amount of energy, he may not have as much in another 3 years from now. I don't really have a position on a Trump 3rd term. I understand though that it sounds a bit cultish. The main thing I would see with that issue is I do believe it will be proven that 2020 was stolen. With the direction everything is going, it would seem to be a major focus of Trump. And I believe it was stolen. So if so, it would be found out. And if found out that does kind of leave the question open, what might that mean if a president had an election stolen and served two terms? He might be awarded an extra and just give it to Vance.

I'm kind of surprised how Trump will drift from the Epstein issue (even though it was never really something he paraded so loudly). To me it would seem a lot of the Epstein social shaping in regards to Trump releasing files would have been a Q thing, from what I I have seen. Trump did say he would release them, but also saying that he was more inclined to release JFK files than Epstein. Still, Trump not knowing how popular the Epstein files are to MAGA did surprise me as a Trump disconnect. Like the vax. I guess one reason I would think he would not serve a 3rd term would be because he is incredible on some fronts and on others kind of out of touch a bit. I suppose that could go on indefinitely...but maybe a Trump 3rd term would best be handed to perspectives equally in touch with significant portions of the base where Trump might be a bit fuzzy on. Just my thoughts. In any event, thanks so much for sharing that brother. Blessings.

 

[Margery]

If there was any credible damaging info to this whole Epstein story, it would have come out years ago.

If Maxwell had any credible info/dirt, she would of made a deal before or during her trial.

If Epstein had a ‘list”, he would of used it before his trial for a lenient sentence.

The democrats slow walked this whole story, and is now using it to get uninformed members of the Trump base to doubt the President.

that is PRECISELY why this whole Epstein thing is a nothing burger.

If it COULD be used against Trump, it would have been long before now. The left is throwing mud and seeing if it will stick.

Regarding a list- it's a little much to think one didn't exist- after all Epstein used his clients for blackmail, but whether it ever made it into law enforcement hands, into a chain of custody is another speculation.

My thought- if they could kill Epstein- while in custody, a list would have been equally at risk.

If people of power and influence got Epstein killed so he couldn't testify, then they would have dealt with any other loose ends. Like such a list.

Whatever remains, still might have some national security issues.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the only living witness left, and she knows what happened to Epstein. She's never going to testify- and if she tries, they'll get to her somehow. Or she'll lie under oath to preserve her own life. Epstein died in custody. She can too.

I think this is one case that God will deal with, permanently as each person involved comes before Him.

I recently stopped listening to Bannon because he’s pushy and his zeal for President Trump is excessive.

Maybe it’s my imagination, but several R. Catholic commentators seem overly pushy lately. A man who was an FBI whistleblower, Kyle Seraphim, a RC has a podcast I had to stop listening to because he’s pushy—unlike two of his fellow whistleblowers Steve Friend and Garret O’Boyle who are Protestant.

Candace Owens is another RC who has gone down the fringe conspiracy rabbit hole too.

I think it might have something to do with theology- Replacement Theology which started within the Catholic church in the 300s and got transported straight into the Reformation churches which accounts for a lot of ugly anti semitism there too.

I think going anti semitic warps the mind in such a way that they swallow all kinds of nonsense.

 

[TCC]

RC theology is unfortunately plagued with replacement theology and other bad doctrines which affects everything else.

That makes me wonder if we are this close to the tribulation how RC might be viewing things, as well as NAR in days to come. And although there are i believe likely saved souls in both camps despite bad doctrine and extremely dangerous heresy (especially on the RC side of that), if we are as close to the tribulation as we see we might be, that would be pretty intense at the peak of the super rise of America...to then...moments later...see the rapture come and go for many of them...and many still left here thinking Christ would reward the triumphant church for taking over the social order. But instead, sudden destruction and crickets (by the way does anybody hear crickets anymore?--some say evolution and some say climate change--both we know are false, but i had been noticing this since 2017...that cricket sound is gone, right?).

 

[Margery]

That makes me wonder if we are this close to the tribulation how RC might be viewing things, as well as NAR in days to come. And although there are i believe likely saved souls in both camps despite bad doctrine and extremely dangerous heresy (especially on the RC side of that), if we are as close to the tribulation as we see we might be, that would be pretty intense at the peak of the super rise of America...to then...moments later...see the rapture come and go for many of them...and many still left here thinking Christ would reward the triumphant church for taking over the social order. But instead, sudden destruction and crickets (by the way does anybody hear crickets anymore?--some say evolution and some say climate change--both we know are false, but i had been noticing this since 2017...that cricket sound is gone, right?).

LOL Teren, you can come up to Kamloops- around here the crickets chirp all evening spring to fall as soon as the heat comes. (it's a desert inland region) They can be pretty noisy actually.

As to the RCC and individuals inside the RCC ---

My friend Barb was up visiting on Tuesday, and we were discussing the nearness of the Tribulation (and the even more nearness of the Rapture) with anticipation. She is born again, just would never leave her church. There are some still in there - in fact that is why I think Jesus has an encouraging message for those inside Thyatira who haven't known the deep things of Satan.

BUT

She is deeply concerned for her children, none of whom walk with the Lord, nor taught their children to. Her eldest I happen to know gave his heart to the Lord at a Protestant run Bible camp one year- he was very close at the time to my son- they are the same age, known each other since they were toddlers in diapers. That's how Barb and I met.

I don't rub her nose in the fact that she kept them in the RCC - as I know Protestant families who have similar issues. She struggles with guilt enough as it is. It gets down to the parent's teaching the Word but also the free will of the child to accept Salvation. But growing up RCC didn't help. She also thought I was nuts to homeschool our kids as teenagers thru high school. Now she wishes her grandchildren were homeschooled.

Now she worries. It's the Rapture. She knows what's coming.

She made them read the Left Behind series in their teens, so she knows they know about the Rapture, but she is quite sure that 2 of the 3 will be left behind, and she isn't sure about her oldest that gave his heart to the Lord. I on the other hand have talked with him in the past, and regardless of his life right now, I'm pretty sure he is going up with us. His kids and wife, not so much. His younger brother and his wife and daughter not likely - and their sister, maybe not.

She knows we are going up soon. We were talking over everything we see and the fact that at no point in history was all this going on. She's big on the as it was in the days of Noah, and I agree.

Bottom line, she's praying as if their lives depend on it which they do. Praying for each one to get saved in Jesus, not Mary. Jesus. The ONLY way to salvation as she knows and affirms.

Both of us think that a HUGE HUGE chunk of the RCC will be left behind- they will join with the apostate remnants of the other denominations and the other religions to form whatever version of apostasy that becomes the Whore of Babylon.

She doesn't want them to take the mark and she worries. She needs to talk with them again, and I pray for her and them that she does, and that they will listen.

But there are many like her.

 

[TCC]

that is PRECISELY why this whole Epstein thing is a nothing burger.

If it COULD be used against Trump, it would have been long before now. The left is throwing mud and seeing if it will stick.

Regarding a list- it's a little much to think one didn't exist- after all Epstein used his clients for blackmail, but whether it ever made it into law enforcement hands, into a chain of custody is another speculation.

My thought- if they could kill Epstein- while in custody, a list would have been equally at risk.

If people of power and influence got Epstein killed so he couldn't testify, then they would have dealt with any other loose ends. Like such a list.

Whatever remains, still might have some national security issues.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the only living witness left, and she knows what happened to Epstein. She's never going to testify- and if she tries, they'll get to her somehow. Or she'll lie under oath to preserve her own life. Epstein died in custody. She can too.

I think this is one case that God will deal with, permanently as each person involved comes before Him.



Candace Owens is another RC who has gone down the fringe conspiracy rabbit hole too.

I think it might have something to do with theology- Replacement Theology which started within the Catholic church in the 300s and got transported straight into the Reformation churches which accounts for a lot of ugly anti semitism there too.

I think going anti semitic warps the mind in such a way that they swallow all kinds of nonsense.

Although i don't believe Candace is an antisemite, I agree that the RC has jaded her thinking. But aside from that, seeing her public fight with Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire, and the kinds of things that came from Jeremy Boring (Daily Wire CEO), something twisted is going on with that beyond Candace from what i have seen. The RC interestingly enough has been pegged as the line blurring entity potentially in MAGA. From what i have seen of the Luciferian Light (LL) view (the view that the right takes over but does in a fleshy way to seduce believers and unbelievers into fake rightness), they would see the RC big in LL movement. Which kind of opens pandora's box when we see how those two connect.

Trump 45 was understood to be the president of Israel first, then America. Upon the wings of his arrival as 47, it is still rumored that Israel control's Trump. I don't believe that is the case. But look at those two views side by side. On one hand we have RC & Replacement Theology concern. On the other hand we have RC and America is owned by Israel view. lol. So it looks like two sides of the same coin can in this way i reckon be seen of RC. It would make sense for America to have grander presence in the middle east (since God is real--it could only come with some reasonable favor to Israel), we would need Israel. Even though the world is set against them for America to thrive in the middle east, it would need Israel and God's blessing in respect thereof to boot. So its interesting with Christian Nationalism (which would seem to be a NAR and RC trope) is hugely fueled in respect to Israel. The Abraham Accords matter because of Israel And America as a benefactor in all of that would strengthen us throughout the world too. So its just kind of funny how on one side of that coin it seems to be that RC favors dominionism while having to face the stark reality that which brings America to this place in the East would be that country they thought we replaced, Isreal. lol. Maybe the humor of God in how all that works out.

. . . . .

I'm actually kind of wondering why the left would actually fall for this, regarding Epstein. Possibly because they did insert stuff in it in hopes to get the public riled about Trump. Back several weeks ago when Elon Musk first touted, "The real reason Trump is not interested in releasing the Epstein files is because Trump is in them." This statement of Elon's was expressed in a vacuum. It was a jab Elon took at Trump for the insult he felt over the bill Trump passed. As for all of that, i believe it is theater. I don't actually think Trump and Elon are fighting. At that time we were not saying anything or much about Epstein. It kind of died down until around that same time Dan Bongino and Kash Patel start looking pretty weak over the whole Epstein issue. But on the Elon Musk note, at the time of that what looked familiar to me is baiting tactics. Trump did a lot of this sort of thing on Twitter with the dems for years during 45. Where he would antagonize dems and they would take the bait, only to prove Trump right over and over and over again years. I realize Elon is not Trump. But that look to me so similar to Trump game theory. At the time i posted on this forum that to me what that seemed like was a way for Trump to bait the left to push the Epstein agenda. That may not be accurate. But it is funny looking back now to only a few short weeks ago when I put that out there and there really was very little lefty pushing of Epstein...to eh hem...what mess we kind of have now. Optics are huge in politics. For 4 years as 45, the left would use any breath that came from Trump to tell us how breathing is bad for our health and probably demonic because Trump does it.

So i realize this Epstein issue has many sides. But pound for pound, when Elon kicked it off, it looked to me like triangulation (using the other sides issue against them). But with sophistication. Because the optic cannot look like Trump wanted the Epstein files. Publically, if some dems are paraded down the street in guilt of that, Trump can't be the one pushing the agenda. Because America has to wake up honestly. America has to be able to see what is going on. And America can't do that if the left can easily make chasing them from Trump political. It would have to super loudly be in the other direction. If any of that is over the target...i'd say, "Mission Accomplished."

From what things look like in general to me, is not that the Epstein files have no meat on the bone, but that, to me, its likely a toy in the hands of the right for the left to play with until it bites them in the face. So I guess i will go out on a limb and suggest that would be the most likely direction this to be going. It would be for the sake of optics so that more dems join MAGA, when the bottom falls out. If Comey, Clapper, and Brennan get sentences on proof undeniable, and even Obama, then Epstein icing to boot on that cake, that would be what makes the most sense to me.

It would seem the file Merrick Garland wanted to find at Trump's house during the raid was the one Tulsi exposed. That level of intel would grant the USA power to go to military tribunal if the US courts are too infested with the swamp. Epstein blackmail issues could constitute the same, and may go into military tribunals, but that level of evidence is not on the table yet. Likely because what is the biggest problem with America is it being taken over by globalism. Not that heads of state are morally weak. I do't think the main issue is bad high level players interested in minors. I believe what has to be the loudest branding is "treason." So the country can be reimagined by its citizenry. The globalist swan song can't be: Well at least globalists that control America are more afraid of who they sleep with now. The core main thoroughfare issue is treason, not debauchery. But that debauchery as an added emotional intensity be a compliment to the process. At least in how it is looking to me at the moment. Well thanks for letting me just spill it out there. I guess we will see. But yeah, i never thought the Epstein issue delayed was because of Trump involvement. The bigger issue facing America is High Crimes and Misdemeanors. At least in how it is kind of looking today. For what that is worth. Blessings.

 

[TCC]

LOL Teren, you can come up to Kamloops- around here the crickets chirp all evening spring to fall as soon as the heat comes. (it's a desert inland region) They can be pretty noisy actually.

As to the RCC and individuals inside the RCC ---

My friend Barb was up visiting on Tuesday, and we were discussing the nearness of the Tribulation (and the even more nearness of the Rapture) with anticipation. She is born again, just would never leave her church. There are some still in there - in fact that is why I think Jesus has an encouraging message for those inside Thyatira who haven't known the deep things of Satan.

BUT

She is deeply concerned for her children, none of whom walk with the Lord, nor taught their children to. Her eldest I happen to know gave his heart to the Lord at a Protestant run Bible camp one year- he was very close at the time to my son- they are the same age, known each other since they were toddlers in diapers. That's how Barb and I met.

I don't rub her nose in the fact that she kept them in the RCC - as I know Protestant families who have similar issues. She struggles with guilt enough as it is. It gets down to the parent's teaching the Word but also the free will of the child to accept Salvation. But growing up RCC didn't help. She also thought I was nuts to homeschool our kids as teenagers thru high school. Now she wishes her grandchildren were homeschooled.

Now she worries. It's the Rapture. She knows what's coming.

She made them read the Left Behind series in their teens, so she knows they know about the Rapture, but she is quite sure that 2 of the 3 will be left behind, and she isn't sure about her oldest that gave his heart to the Lord. I on the other hand have talked with him in the past, and regardless of his life right now, I'm pretty sure he is going up with us. His kids and wife, not so much. His younger brother and his wife and daughter not likely - and their sister, maybe not.

She knows we are going up soon. We were talking over everything we see and the fact that at no point in history was all this going on. She's big on the as it was in the days of Noah, and I agree.

Bottom line, she's praying as if their lives depend on it which they do. Praying for each one to get saved in Jesus, not Mary. Jesus. The ONLY way to salvation as she knows and affirms.

Both of us think that a HUGE HUGE chunk of the RCC will be left behind- they will join with the apostate remnants of the other denominations and the other religions to form whatever version of apostasy that becomes the Whore of Babylon.

She doesn't want them to take the mark and she worries. She needs to talk with them again, and I pray for her and them that she does, and that they will listen.

But there are many like her.

Glad to hear your friend has such heart, amen. And glad to hear we still have crickets. I kinda miss them around here. Blessings.

 

[Andy C]

This thread IMO is a deep dive into how much conspiracy one is willing to believe, rivaling Alex Jones.

Reminds me of one of my former sites I use to enjoy before it went crazy with conspiracies- hint, that pastor loves Hawaiian shirts..