LEFT BEHIND FOR BAD BEHAVIOR?

[dwb]

As humans we just can't comprehend God's grace that he "would save a wretch like me". But He will keep His promise!

 

[Andy C]

We know all Christians will be taken in the rapture, but what an awful time it will be for our loved ones who are left behind. Seeds were planted, and we can only hope those seeds will be watered leading to a their belief in Jesus as their Savior, becoming tribulation saints.

 

[Baby Yoda]

Me 6.....

 

[Baby Yoda]

And what kind of work does He require of us? When they asked Him this a few verses earlier, He replied, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent” (John 6:29) There’s nothing you can add to your faith in what the Lord has done. No good works of yours will either earn or hold your place in the rapture. It’s based totally on what you believe and not on how you behave.

 

[Cheeky200386]

Until I read your account of salvation at age 3, I did not believe a child so young could truly understand what salvation is.

Peter is asking me all about hell and heaven and about baptism. I’m praying for wisdom to know whether he really understands. I share the Gospel every moment I can praying and hoping both my kids will be saved asap. Then I can die happy.

Her testimony gave me hope it’s possible at this age.

 

[Cheeky200386]

I was saved at 4. I had a dream, still remember it. Jesus was walking by our house and He turned and beckoned to me to follow Him. I was stumbling trying to pull my boots on and run out the door after Him.

The dream ended before I could catch up to Him, but in the morning I was explaining the dream to my mother - my Christian mother -- and she made me so annoyed, because she said I was too young and it was just a dream.

I still remember trying to explain it to her, and the frustration of not making it clear enough that she would understand what I was saying. Her point of view was that this was not how God worked in modern times. Just a dream, and I was far too young.

Well it certainly was a dream, and I've never forgotten it and I knew that all I ever wanted was to run after Jesus and belong to Him from that moment forward.

I'm sure mum told me about giving my heart to the Lord,- sin, the Cross, belief in Christ. She read the Bible to me and my sister every night, and led us in prayers too.

But what I knew at 4 was that He was the most important person in my life, and all I wanted to do was follow Him.

By 8 I was memorizing scripture verses with my mum's dad, my grandfather when we went to visit for short periods.

At 10 I finally got her to agree to allow me to get baptized. She kept saying I was too young (against infant baptism) to make such a momentous decision. I can remember the same sense of frustration but I wore her down and I got baptized at 10 (not immersion- it was a Presbyterian church so it was sprinkling). I was re baptized by immersion at a Baptist church in my late teens as I decided to recommit my life then, and I'd decided that immersion was something I wanted as the sprinkling didn't seem to be as drastic a step.

Our son got saved around the age of 5, our daughter was around 4. With both of them I knew the commitment was real.

I don't discount children that young making a lifetime commitment. All of us have renewed that commitment over the years, but that was when it happened.

How do you know? Peter seems very interested but I’m afraid of reading too much into it due to my excitement or of discouraging him because I won’t believe if and when he’s ready.

 

[Cheeky200386]

I have never seen in any church I attended a child even close to that young get baptized.

Me either, maybe 8-10 years old.

 

[LydiaJoy]

I’m going to put this here, just because I need to vent. As a young child, about 5 or 6, I remember going to my Grandparents church w/ them, which was a super old, moldy catholic church. I’m very allergic to mold, so I was always very sick while there, blowing my nose and struggling to breath (asthma attack from the mold). My mom told me my grandmother said I should just stay home If I basically couldn’t pull it together and not blow my nose during church, because she was embarrassed by me. I find it odd that they couldn’t find a church that we could go to that didn’t cause an allergic reaction for me, almost needing an epi pin or visit to the ER. But I remember praying and talking with Jesus at that age, so I look forward to truly knowing what age it was that I was saved.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Peter is asking me all about hell and heaven and about baptism. I’m praying for wisdom to know whether he really understands. I share the Gospel every moment I can praying and hoping both my kids will be saved asap. Then I can die happy.

Her testimony gave me hope it’s possible at this age.

Asking about Biblical things is like asking about sex. When a child asks, he or she is ready and wants to learn. The Parent needs to exercise wisdom about how much to teach (age and understanding-appropriate). Children understand a lot more than they're given credit for. I figure however much is taught about Heaven, at least that amount should be taught about Hell. If your child reads, even at a beginner's level, this is a good time to introduce your child to using a concordance, even an abridged/short one in a Bible, to find verses about what he or she wants to learn about. From there, then looking at the notes and referenced other Bible verses. Also a good time to introduce your child to using Bible Gateway website or Blue Letter Bible app to search digital Bible.

If your child is asking about Baptism, he or she is at or rapidly approaching the time to get Baptized (Believer's Baptism).


Here are a few things that provide fodder for teaching . . . The Lord's Prayer, Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep prayer, and even Grace before meals. The Apostle's Creed has all of the core Christian teachings. Also, the Ten Commandments, Romans Road, John 3:16-19, Ephesians 2, Psalm 32:1-5, 1 John 1:5-10, Psalm 23, etc.

Here is the Baptist Catechism (aka Keach’s Catechism or The 1695 Catechism). As a whole, it may or may not be totally in agreement with what you believe.
The questions about Baptism start with #97

The Baptist Catechism

The Baptist Catechism, also known as Keach’s Catechism or the 1695 Catechism

baptistcatechism.org

Your church may have a booklet to help Parents teach their children.

Or someone here @mattfivefour may be able to suggest a book, workbook, website, etc.

God will give you wisdom . . .

 

[Tall Timbers]

But I remember praying and talking with Jesus at that age, so I look forward to truly knowing what age it was that I was saved.

I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me. John 10:14

 

[Andy C]

Peter is asking me all about hell and heaven and about baptism. I’m praying for wisdom to know whether he really understands. I share the Gospel every moment I can praying and hoping both my kids will be saved asap. Then I can die happy.

Her testimony gave me hope it’s possible at this age.

I have mostly kept quiet about this, but honestly, I find it hard to believe that a young childs brain is developed enough to understand what salvation is. Im certainly not questioning anyone on this forum salvation, but I do question that they truly understood what they were saying in regards to salvation at the super young age some have mentioned on here. But, as always, thats just my opinion.

What is important, that your son is asking questions, and that you are teaching him about the Word of God.

 

[Cheeky200386]

I’m going to put this here, just because I need to vent. As a young child, about 5 or 6, I remember going to my Grandparents church w/ them, which was a super old, moldy catholic church. I’m very allergic to mold, so I was always very sick while there, blowing my nose and struggling to breath (asthma attack from the mold). My mom told me my grandmother said I should just stay home If I basically couldn’t pull it together and not blow my nose during church, because she was embarrassed by me. I find it odd that they couldn’t find a church that we could go to that didn’t cause an allergic reaction for me, almost needing an epi pin or visit to the ER. But I remember praying and talking with Jesus at that age, so I look forward to truly knowing what age it was that I was saved.

Me too! I had a strong Faith as a child and knew God was real. The Catholic teachings put a damper on all of it and I walked away at 16. I don’t know if that means I was already saved because at 30 I called out to God to save me from a moment of despair. I have never looked back since and have wanted to follow Jesus. That desperate call came out of nowhere deep inside me and I remember just being stunned with how it was the first thing I screamed, after not really praying or thinking of God for almost 15 years.

This makes me wonder now. I remember having reassurances from God, praying to him and getting answers to prayers as little as 6 years old. I just knew God was taking care of me, loved me, and my understanding was I was sinful and had to ask for forgiveness to go to heaven. It was also tarnished with the idea of confession, penance and the Eucharist from Catholicism. I just assumed I got saved at 30 but now I wonder if I was always a prodigal.

 

[Cheeky200386]

I have mostly kept quiet about this, but honestly, I find it hard to believe that a young childs brain is developed enough to understand what salvation is. Im certainly not questioning anyone on this forum salvation, but I do question that they truly understood what they were saying in regards to salvation at the super young age some have mentioned on here. But, as always, thats just my opinion.

What is important, that your son is asking questions, and that you are teaching him about the Word of God.

The good thing is my son will be 5 next week and I’ve known many people who were saved as early as 6 years. I’m preparing myself to be as helpful as possible and open to that possibility. 3 years old does seem hard to accept for me too.

Elizabeth is turning 3 years old and I can’t see her understanding the concept of sin yet. She knows we talk about heaven and hell but it seems more like parroting at this age for her.

 

[Andy C]

The good thing is my son will be 5 next week and I’ve known many people who were saved as early as 6 years. I’m preparing myself to be as helpful as possible and open to that possibility. 3 years old does seem hard to accept for me too.

Elizabeth is turning 3 years old and I can’t see her understanding the concept of sin yet. She knows we talk about heaven and hell but it seems more like parroting at this age for her.

Regardless of when, with a parent like you, Im confident they will become a child of God, destined for eternity with Him.

When is the age one can become saved, I have not an answer for that. We both Know that God will know when that person truly understands, and has chosen to believe in Jesus as their savior.

Side note: I will be in hiding for when a member who is a retired Army First Sergeant responds to these last few posts of mine….

 

[Cheeky200386]

Regardless of when, with a parent like you, Im confident they will become a child of God, destined for eternity with Him.

When is the age one can become saved, I have not an answer for that. We both Know that God will know when that person truly understands, and has chosen to believe in Jesus as their savior.

Side note: I will be in hiding for when a member who is a retired Army First Sergeant responds to these last few posts of mine….

Lol I wanted to put a prayer emoji and a laughing one simultaneously. Hopefully the response will be gracious

 

[Tall Timbers]

Side note: I will be in hiding for when a member who is a retired Army First Sergeant responds to these last few posts of mine….

Prepare to be bowled over by our cantankerous Army First Sergeant...

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 18:3, KJV

13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
Matthew 19:13-15, KJV

5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Matthew 18:5-6, KJV

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:8, KJV

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Matthew 19:25-26, KJV

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Revelation 3:20, KJV

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven?​

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven? Is it enough to believe it, even if we do not fully understand it? | GotQuestions.org

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven? Is it enough to believe it, even if we do not fully understand it?

www.gotquestions.org

 

[Tall Timbers]

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven?

When I got saved I only understood based on my experience. I knew Jesus gave me new life. It was later that I read about it in the Bible, which was amazing to me.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

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[Andy C]

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 18:3, KJV

13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.
Matthew 19:13-15, KJV

5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Matthew 18:5-6, KJV

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:8, KJV

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Matthew 19:25-26, KJV

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Revelation 3:20, KJV

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven?​

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven? Is it enough to believe it, even if we do not fully understand it? | GotQuestions.org

Is it necessary to fully understand the Gospel to go to heaven? Is it enough to believe it, even if we do not fully understand it?

www.gotquestions.org

Im not thinking little children is referring to toddler aged children.