good old buckyballs. Love the interesting ways that math and physics intersect medicine. Yup, aware of graphene.
Yup, I agree that loads of stuff including but not limited to genetic modifications can come in a syringe to be injected.
Got no issue with the idea that a dozen impossible things before breakfast (Alice in Wonderland quote to the Rabbit) can be stuck into a syringe and uploaded into the human body. It's fact not fiction. Happens all the time.
Got no issue with the idea that genetic tampering exists and there are a number of interesting ways to modify the human genome from smoking marijuana, retroviruses, CRISPR tech, to old fashioned radiation induced cancers up to the above mentioned mRNA vax and a lot of really dreadful chimera mixtures being developed in labs (Chinese researcher bragged that he'd managed to use CRISPR tech to modify the genetics of a pair of Chinese twins, giving them a gene that never existed in nature which conferred a resistance to AIDS (which was used in the genetic engineering over in Wuhan to create Covid- AIDS, Ebola and some other deadly viruses were used to splice onto the bat virus to make it do certain things). That changed their genetics to include that gene in their reproductive cells which means it's entered the human genome as soon as they start reproducing. No sticking that genie back in the bottle.
Got no issue with chips, microchips, drug delivery systems that are implanted (we've been doing that for years fine tuning that- it's a great way to deliver chemo or things like insulin)
CONSENT
The reason I say I don't think vaccines or injectables will be "The Mark" is because of the thorny issue of Consent. And the words used for Mark, Hand and Forehead in Rev 13:16-17
It has to be given to a willing participant.
--because of God's nature.
Offering a way out (angels flying thru the air preaching the everlasting gospel and warning people not to take the mark) that isn't a real choice isn't in God's nature. That choice is real. Therefore consent is necessary because human beings are allowed to say no to it. It's the same argument for Free Will in Salvation. If we can't say no to it, it's not a choice. God offers choice.
For God to tell people NOT to take the mark or you are a dead man or woman walking isn't fair unless God has stopped the enemy from grabbing people off the street, hog tying them down or knocking them out and injecting them without their consent.
A vaccine, any injectable, any procedure that alters the genetics of a person can be done with or without consent.
But this requires consent.
So much so that the False Prophet (working with the AC and Satan) has to use threats to get people to take his mark. No buying or selling. Again, looks like consent has to be voluntary or this doesn't work.
So I base my idea on logic. If God says it's something to say no to, He will provide a way for humans to comply with God against the wishes of the AC, FP and their puppet master Satan.
The False Prophet turns around and threatens people in order to get that compliance, get that consent. Again, the logical conclusion is that the AC/FP REQUIRE willing consent so he's providing incentives (access to buying and selling) and threats (no access to same).
Somehow some way God is forcing the enemy to comply with Consent.
And that becomes the foundation of my entire argument. Consent is necessary. Therefore stuff that can be done (even a tattoo can be inked in without consent) ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE BASED ON CONSENT
THE MARK
- the word, the definitions, the underlying meaning of the word
NOW we get back to the word Mark used in Rev 13:16 I'll just copy and paste in the passage from my eSword
Rev 13:16 And G2532 he causeth G4160 all, G3956 both small G3398 and G2532 great, G3173 ( G2532 ) rich G4145 and G2532 poor, G4434 ( G2532 ) free G1658 and G2532 bond, G1401 to G2443 receive G1325 G846
a mark G5480 in G1909 their G848 right G1188
hand, G5495 or G2228 in G1909
their G848 foreheads: G3359
I'll stick the Strong's definitions in for the stuff I bolded
mark G5480
charagma
khar'-ag-mah
From the same as G5482;
a scratch or etching, that is, stamp(as a badge of servitude), or
sculptured figure (
statue): -
graven, mark.
my note here- this carries the idea of a stamp as a badge of servitude, something "graven" which is an old word for carving writing or carving an image. Strong's uses old fashioned terms and graven is an interesting one. Here's the Oxford dictionary for that -
"verb
past participle:
graven
- archaic
engrave (an inscription or image) on a surface.
"marble graved with exquisite flower, human and animal forms"
- literary
fix (something) indelibly in the mind.
"the times are graven on my memory""
I notice that the idea of a permanent inscription, or image, something indelible, like we would say "carved in stone". We use the term graven image for a carved idol for example.
So looking at the root G5482 it keeps the further idea of scratching or etching something with a sharp point.
G5482
charax
khar'-ax
From “charasso” (to
sharpen to a point; akin to G1125
through the idea of scratching); a
stake, that is, (by implication) a
palisade or
rampart (millitary
mound for circumvallation in a siege): - trench.
The other 2 words for hand and forehead here:
hand, G5495
cheir
khire
Perhaps from the base of G5494 in the sense of its congener the base of G5490 (through the idea of
hollowness for grasping); the
hand (literally or figuratively [
power]; especially [by Hebraism] a
means or
instrument): - hand.
G848 Forehead here is pretty straightforward
metopon
met'-o-pon
From G3326 and ὤψ
ōps (the
face); the
forehead (as
opposite the
countenance): - forehead.
So looking at the Strongs it's pretty straightforward, that whatever this mark is, the idea of scratching it in, etching it into the skin, stamping it onto the skin is there in the word used in the original. That is backed up by it's roots which also include using a sharp pointy thing to scratch.
Yes scratching it in could be a vaccine such as Edward Jenner used in the original cowpox vaccine where he scratched the skin, to give a mild disease cowpox that would prevent a worse disease smallpox. A type of vaccine.
But it's looking more like the actual MARK that it creates is important because it's being etched onto the right hand or forehead of the person.
Visible areas. A visible mark. Firmly and permanently etched, stamped or scratched onto the person's hand or forehead.
And that gets back to the word for Mark --charagma
I looked up all 9 instances of the word Mark (charagma) in the Bible and they all refer to the mark of the Beast EXCEPT for Acts 17:29 when it carries the concept of idolatry contrasted with worship of God.
Every single time the word is used as something that is marked by man. It's something visible. It's created by a sharp object carving or engraving or etching or marking.
Acts 17:29 "29 “Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone,
graven by art and man's device."
So if this is Satan's imitation of Christ, scratching or carving his mark onto the humans who agree to his ownership. They have it etched in, stamped on the forehead and right hand
GOD's SEAL
THEN what does the word sealed work out to also in Revelation when it refers to GOD sealing His own. Rev 7:3 and 9:4
Rev 7:2-3
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having
the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees,
till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
the angel descends with the seal of God and the word seal is this
G4973
sphragis
sfrag-ece'
Probably strengthened from G5420; a
signet (as
fencing in or protecting from misappropriation); by implication the
stamp impressed (as a mark of privacy, or genuineness), literally or figuratively: - seal.
so what is G5420
phrassō
fras'-so
Apparently a strengthened form of the base of G5424;
to fence or inclose, that is, (specifically)
to block up (figuratively to
silence): - stop.
I've never gone this deep (big thanks for spurring me onto this) and here we have the implication of GENUINE, the real thing, a mark of privacy. FENCED IN and protected from misappropriation (theft) and that is just the word for the seal.
Here is the act of sealing next
G4972
sphragizō
sfrag-id'-zo
From G4973;
to stamp (
with a signet or private mark) for
security or preservation (literally or figuratively);
by implication to keep secret, to
attest: - (set a, set to)
seal up, stop.
GOD'S PROPERTY stamp to secure and preserve, to keep secret, to seal up.
also found here
and Rev 9:4
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only
those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
CONCLUSION
So Satan's imitation- his "mark" seen in Rev 13:16-17 is based on something that God did earlier back in Rev 7 and 9 when God placed a seal, on God's own people that stops "misappropriation" ie theft, marking His servants as the genuine real thing. Fenced in and protected. Stamped for security or preservation, kept secret.
It's amazing.
Still doesn't settle the question of what exactly the enemy uses but it looks by the wording that it has to be visible on the forehead or right hand whatever it is.
The wording seems to limit it to scratching up the surface of the body while God actually seals up His servants like a jar would have a stopper applied and a wax airtight seal complete with the signet ring set onto the hot wax as the seal of ownership.
A legal seal by God placed on His own as opposed to some scratchy mark carved into the skin of the forehead or right hand (visible areas) of the damned.
One protects (the seal of God seals and protects) while the other scratches or mars the surface marking that one for destruction.
That was fun
Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did
