TCC
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In the sense of bunker buster bombs, I believe Israel does not have those. Or enough of them to matter.
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TCC
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Exactly. There could be other ways perhaps.
TCC
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There were quite a few stories in 2017/2018 era where it was understood that many Muslims where coming to Christ. Like a mass exodus (predominantly even back then from Iran). Some even claiming to have had dreams of Jesus as the messiah. Joel Richardson did some documentaries around that time of Iran. In onr of the documentaries there was a woman that share her testimony in Iran of coming to Christ. And she disclosed some of the way's that culture would treat conversion. In the documentary the woman said she could be physically abused in very intimate ways for her testimony. But said that if that were to occur to her, while it would be happening to her, in her inner most soul would be rejoicing and worshipping the Lord for considering her so worthy to suffer for His name in such intimate ways. lol. Something I don't recall ever coming out of the West. Perhaps this is what @Ghoti Ichthus is referring to about the woman? Blessings.
1LoverofGod
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Israel has the capability if they use their nukes.
Whether they will use them will depend on how threatened they feel.
LightOfMyLife
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Fordow is way down underground I don't know if nukes is powerful enough to do the job. They definitely feel threatened that is why they are talking about taking them out in the next 72 hours. Putin sounds like he is threatening Trump if he gets involved in it.
1LoverofGod
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Its likely the US is going to do the job.
Our forces have been positioning and just waiting for the order from Trump
Trump said he will decide "within two weeks".
"Within" doesn't mean he will wait the two weeks.
Trump has repeatedly said he wants Iran to agree to no enrichment of uranium which Iran refuses to agree to. Iran just met with EU leaders for more talks and the Iranian FM emphasized Iran has a "right to enrich the uranium" and went further with derogatory statements about the US and saying "Trump used the talks to help Israel attack them and America cant be trusted".
This gives Trump what he needs to justify the offensive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.
We should see before the weekend ends what happens with Iran, whether by the US or Israel or both
1LoverofGod
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Houthis threaten US ships in Red Sea if Trump joins Israel's Iran strikes
Yemen's Houthis will target US ships in the Red Sea if Washington becomes involved in Israeli attacks on Iran, the group's military spokesperson said on Saturday.
"Any US aggression or attack in support of the Israeli enemy against Iran serves this goal and therefore cannot go unanswered. Remaining silent would mean surrendering the freedom and dignity of the [Islamic] nation and allowing its wealth to be plundered," the Houthi statement said. "This is a battle for the entire nation and a salvation for all its people>"
In May, the US and the Houthis agreed to a ceasefire under which neither side would target the other.This came after Trump decided to repeatedly target the Houthis.
Yemen's Houthis will target US ships if Donald Trump strikes Iran | The Jerusalem Post
The US president has been unclear on whether or not he will decide to strike Iran after nuclear talks between Washington and Tehran reached an impasse.
www.jpost.com
1LoverofGod
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Netanyahu suggests Israel can strike Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, believed to be buried deep under a mountain, without US help
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly implied that his country is capable of attacking all of Iran’s nuclear facilities — even the secretive Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, which is believed to be buried half a mile under a mountain.
Netanyahu insisted the Jewish state “will achieve all our objectives” despite many military experts doubting that the Jewish state has the capabilities of taking out the underground nuclear facility site.
“We will achieve all our objectives and hit all of their nuclear facilities. We have the capability to do that,” Netanyahu said when asked by a reporter about Fordow specifically.
Netanyahu suggests Israel can strike Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, believed to be buried deep under a mountain, without US help
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insisted the Jewish state “will achieve all our objectives” despite many military experts doubting that the Jewish state has the capabilities o…
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1LoverofGod
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Alongside B-2 bomber deployment: U.S. sends more fighter jets to Middle East bases
The New York Times reported that alongside the deployment of B-2 bombers, additional American fighter jets including F-22, F-16 and F-35 models were transferred from Europe to bases in the Middle East. These fighter jets could escort the B-2 bombers if they strike Fordow, or defend American bases and forces in the region in case of retaliatory attacks from Iran.
The New York Times reported that alongside the deployment of B-2 bombers, additional American fighter jets including F-22, F-16 and F-35 models were transferred from Europe to bases in the Middle East. These fighter jets could escort the B-2 bombers if they strike Fordow, or defend American bases and forces in the region in case of retaliatory attacks from Iran.
I am of the opinion that if we think the Iranian leadership are going to cower from our threats, or suddenly say they will abort their nuclear endeavors, we are seriously mistaken. They are relishing all this upheaval that is going on............for, it will bring forth their messiah, the mahdi, who will arrive in the midst of turmoil and chaos. So, the circumstances now - to them - are perfect for him to arrive on the scene. And, if we - Israel, and/or the U.S. - attack in Iran, I would not be surprised if Iran will then send out the call for the imbedded muslim terrorists to go on the attack here in our country. Very interesting times we are in now.............. God will prevail.
For the Iranian guy, it doesn't look like things are going to work out for them the way they had hoped. Very soon they aren't gonna have a nuclear program beyond whatever they've manage to hide. If Israel completes the job, Iran won't have a missile program, either. Without outside help it would probably take a generation to recover... China and Russia will be glad to put them back on the fast track in return for something.
A nuke might not do it either.
1LoverofGod
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**Bill Koenig posted this on his website
Watch.org
A 5 minute video from his correspondent in Jerusalem. He says Iran has changed tactics and is using the strategy to keep this war going as long as possible but Israel wont let it be drawn out, but plans on getting the job finished ......
BREAKING: Israel Can Finish the Job | Iran’s New Weapons Revealed
Isaque Levy, our correspondent reporting directly from Jerusalem, brings you the latest and most dramatic updates on the escalating Israel-Iran conflict. In this powerful and eye-opening episode, he exposes Iran’s new weapons capabilities and explains why we must never underestimate Israel’s military strength.
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Watch.org
A 5 minute video from his correspondent in Jerusalem. He says Iran has changed tactics and is using the strategy to keep this war going as long as possible but Israel wont let it be drawn out, but plans on getting the job finished ......
BREAKING: Israel Can Finish the Job | Iran’s New Weapons Revealed
Isaque Levy, our correspondent reporting directly from Jerusalem, brings you the latest and most dramatic updates on the escalating Israel-Iran conflict. In this powerful and eye-opening episode, he exposes Iran’s new weapons capabilities and explains why we must never underestimate Israel’s military strength.
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LightOfMyLife
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It is going to take Bunker Buster Bombs that can go deep underground. It sounds like Trump is setting things in motion as well.
1LoverofGod
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Honestly I don't think we can say one way or another how Israel will do it because its possible nobody really knows what they have.
They've never admitted to having nukes but certainly have them. They may have means to get the job done we don't know about because they keep surprising everybody as with what Mossad has done with the beepers and recently with the drone attacks that took out the commanders and scientists in their beds.
One thing I know is that Israel has gotten through every war they have engaged in since they became a nation again, maybe with some casualties but haven't lost a war, and I think its because God is The One preserving His people Israel
1LoverofGod
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Breaking: Israel pressing for swift action on Fordo nuclear site, may act without US — sources
Reuters report says Jerusalem relayed to Trump administration that it doesn’t want to wait 2 weeks for strike on Iranian facility * Israeli airlines to offer limited seats on outgoing flights
Israeli officials have told the Trump administration they do not want to wait two weeks for Iran to reach a deal to dismantle key parts of its nuclear program and Israel could act alone before the deadline is up, two sources say, amid a continuing debate on Trump’s team about whether the US should get involved.
The two sources familiar with the matter say Israel has communicated its concerns to Trump administration officials on Thursday in what they described as a tense phone call.
The Israeli officials say they do not want to wait the two weeks that US President Donald Trump presented on Thursday as a deadline for deciding whether the US will get involved in the Israel-Iran war, say the sources, who speak on condition of anonymity. The Israeli participants on the call included Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Israel Katz and military chief Eyal Zamir, according to a security source.
The Israelis believe they have a limited window of opportunity to move against the deeply buried site at Fordo, the crown jewel of Iran’s nuclear program, say the sources. The United States is the only country with the bunker-busting bombs powerful enough to reach the facility, which is dug into the side of a mountain.
1LoverofGod
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Israel launches fresh round of strikes in Iran; IDF chief: ‘The whole world is watching us in awe’
Iran’s air defense systems were activated Saturday in several cities, including Qom, Tehran, Isfahan and Bandar Lengeh, state media reported. The Paris-based AFP news agency also documented “loud explosions” in central and northern Tehran.
In Jerusalem, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir paid an official visit to Arrow 136 air defense battalion alongside the Air Defense Corps commander, Maj. Gen. G., and other senior officers. According to the IDF, Zamir commended the battalion’s recent accomplishments—intercepting enemy missile launchers and neutralizing them just minutes before launch.
“Without you, strikes on Israeli civilians and infrastructure would have been devastating,” he told the troops. “The whole world is watching your performance in awe. You are saving lives. You are protecting the people of Israel.”
Israel launches fresh round of strikes in Iran; IDF chief: ‘The whole world is watching us in awe’
Houthis threaten to resume Red Sea attacks if US joins strikes on Iran; Tehran signals rejection of diplomacy under fire as Israeli operations intensify, with over 1,000 strikes on missile systems and key commanders; US B-2 bombers deployed to Pacific
www.ynetnews.com
LightOfMyLife
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Only this bomb can take out Fordow. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPjxc9ceSk0
Agree. We can’t know with any real certainty what weapons Israel has that they have yet to deploy.
I think using a nuke is completely off the table. That could trigger responses from others that we dont want involved.
Interesting times we are witness too.
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