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For those who don't have time to read the entire article, here is what Mike Huckabee said on Truth Social:

"Mr President, God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century-maybe ever. The decisions on your shoulders I would not want to be made by anyone else. You have many voices speaking to you Sir, but there is only ONE voice that matters. HIS voice.

"I am your appointed servant in this land and am available for you but I do not try to get in your presence often because I trust your instincts. No President in my lifetime has been in a position like yours. Not since Truman in 1945. I don't reach out to persuade you. Only to encourage vou. I believe vou will hear from heaven and that voice is far more important than mine or ANYONE else's. You sent me to Israel to be your eyes, ears and voice and to make sure our flag flies above our embassy.

"My job is to be the last one to leave. I will not abandon this post. Our flag will NOT come down! You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU! It is my honor to serve you!"
 
Started by whom you would suspect in the Republican ranks: Thomas Massie, with all of the usual Democrats signing on. I understand their point of view, and believe their positions are genuine. But I also believe they are genuinely wrong. Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons is a very real and extremely dangerous threat to the entire world. And even America's physical isolation by means of two oceans cannot protect it from Iran, a country whose leadership calls America the "Great Satan" and has sworn oaths to destroy her along with the "Little Satan", Israel.
 
For those who don't have time to read the entire article, here is what Mike Huckabee said on Truth Social:

"Mr President, God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century-maybe ever. The decisions on your shoulders I would not want to be made by anyone else. You have many voices speaking to you Sir, but there is only ONE voice that matters. HIS voice.

"I am your appointed servant in this land and am available for you but I do not try to get in your presence often because I trust your instincts. No President in my lifetime has been in a position like yours. Not since Truman in 1945. I don't reach out to persuade you. Only to encourage vou. I believe vou will hear from heaven and that voice is far more important than mine or ANYONE else's. You sent me to Israel to be your eyes, ears and voice and to make sure our flag flies above our embassy.

"My job is to be the last one to leave. I will not abandon this post. Our flag will NOT come down! You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU! It is my honor to serve you!"
Wow!

How often do people like this in our government come around? Interesting times.
I'm sure Mike has all kinds of targets on his back, but he remains faithful to the Word.
 

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran​


President Donald Trump appeared to offer confirmation that the United States is now participating in Israel’s attack on Iran in a Tuesday social media post.

Amid escalating tensions and the exchange of bombings after Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities last week, Trump has faced questions about the extent of U.S. involvement in the conflict. In a new post on Truth Social using the term “We,” Trump wrote: “We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured “stuff.” Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.”

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Politico White House reporter Jake Traylor confirmed with a White House official that “we” in Trump’s post is indeed referring to the United States.

The Trump administration was initially wary of Israel’s strikes that set off the latest round of fighting, with Secretary of State Marco Rubio was quick to insist that Israel acted “unilaterally.” Yet as the White House realized the strikes had been a success, Trump publicly backed Israel’s escalation, according to the New York Times.

Complete Article

 
Watch this video of one and half minutes.
Appears "US strikes on Iran is on the table"


President Trump’s situation room meeting has concluded​


 
Watch this video of one and half minutes.
Appears "US strikes on Iran is on the table"


President Trump’s situation room meeting has concluded​


Another source saying US has strikes on Iran on the table after meeting with Security Team in the Situation room.....


Report: Trump considering taking part in attack on nuclear facilities, including fortified Fordow site
US President Donald Trump is considering adding the US Air Force to Israeli strikes on nuclear facilities in Iran, including the fortified facility in Fordow. This was reported by CBS from five sources familiar with the details. It was also reported that the topic was likely raised in a meeting Trump convened with his National Security Council advisers, who are divided in their opinions regarding this possibility.

 

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran​


President Donald Trump appeared to offer confirmation that the United States is now participating in Israel’s attack on Iran in a Tuesday social media post.

Amid escalating tensions and the exchange of bombings after Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities last week, Trump has faced questions about the extent of U.S. involvement in the conflict. In a new post on Truth Social using the term “We,” Trump wrote: “We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured “stuff.” Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.”

Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-12-03-11-PM.jpg

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Politico White House reporter Jake Traylor confirmed with a White House official that “we” in Trump’s post is indeed referring to the United States.

The Trump administration was initially wary of Israel’s strikes that set off the latest round of fighting, with Secretary of State Marco Rubio was quick to insist that Israel acted “unilaterally.” Yet as the White House realized the strikes had been a success, Trump publicly backed Israel’s escalation, according to the New York Times.

Complete Article

This seems to draw a clear line between being a country that is willing to stick its neck out or hide from upsetting others. Playing nice in the world climate is not an option. We should, of course, have integrity in how we deal with other countries. But with globalism trying to distort democracy through the EU, and players like Iran who's regime lives in a stance of wanting to kill other countries...it is a great thing and theme for Trump to not back away from the responsibility to protect (in the case) the Western World. Amen!. :)
 
Another source saying US has strikes on Iran on the table after meeting with Security Team in the Situation room.....


Report: Trump considering taking part in attack on nuclear facilities, including fortified Fordow site
US President Donald Trump is considering adding the US Air Force to Israeli strikes on nuclear facilities in Iran, including the fortified facility in Fordow. This was reported by CBS from five sources familiar with the details. It was also reported that the topic was likely raised in a meeting Trump convened with his National Security Council advisers, who are divided in their opinions regarding this possibility..

Glad to hear regime change is not the go to American policy. That is a trope of globalism. I understand Israel's desire for that, being a country's primary reason to exist is to eliminate Israel. But it is a good sign that Trump wants it to be known that regime change is not the American go to. Amen!
 
From the article:
The conflict has sparked a bitter debate within Trump’s MAGA movement — between the pro-Israel hawks who want to see war with Iran and the America First isolationists who argue Trump ran on ending U.S. involvement in foreign wars.
The mistake the America First isolationists make is to view what is happening in Iran as a foreign war. It is not. Due to a lack of biblical knowledge --or even a knowledge of history in general-- they presume that what Iran does poses no direct threat to America. Sadly, they are blind in their ignorance and, therefore, the decisions they are making, thinking they will protect America, will in fact place America in great danger.

The place to fight the Muslim extremists of Iran is thousands of miles away IN Iran, not once they have struck America's heartland. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if the Iranian mullahs succeed in making nuclear weapons, innocent people in America will die and have their cities contaminated for hundreds of years. Iran's hatred for America (the term Great Satan is not just a meaningless phrase to them: it is how they view us) is such that they will not simply strike military or political targets: they will willingly and intentionally strike civilian population centers, just as they are doing in Israel right now.
 
Wow!

How often do people like this in our government come around? Interesting times.
I'm sure Mike has all kinds of targets on his back, but he remains faithful to the Word.
Well said Amesthyst :) What is sociologically note worthy in that is it seems a statement like this from Huckabee would be very high profile. But the backdrop it is against is Trump's over the top tweets, and Truth Social posts (which if any had been seeing the way he says things over the years is completely other than any other president ever--and consists of deep deep statements of severe difference), selling his own Bible, NAR making him Cyrus, etc.

So its almost like there is so much fanfare surrounding Trump, that when things are stated that should stand out, awareness can be glossed over because of the woke left propaganda and reporting, the watcher world that pegs Trump as part of the beast system to come, and the grandstanding of likely well meaning patriots asserting Q. lol. So the man is surrounded. And for I guess all good reason. For emotions are running really high.

When we piece together like a jigsaw puzzle the above social elements surrounding Trump, it may tend to have different groups seeing different things and themes in that puzzle composit. One way that is not often noted though is that there is a convergence of idealogy surrounding Trump. That is most interesting to me. Because it loudly suggest arrows pointing from all direction. In the dismissal of validating any one point of view (the left, the far right, the watcher world etc), what I believe is probably the most helpful takeaway is that convergence on Trump is "a thing." And that there are all manner of high falutin opinion on the man. Like a lightning rod of attention.

If we just stop there and notice that phenomenon, its suggestions, "something." And at least this: Whatever Trump represents during our era, it is a loud thing to note. AND that he is a figure that generates extreme views upon himself from each and every random sample of the spectrum of views. When I see that, it causes me to consider that what is on the table concerning Trump is likely something more than my view about it. Because he already is that to all of us regardless of how we may view his presence in our generation.

And having that, instead, as a backdrop to what Huckabee says, to me, provides profound and humble paving for the honest plea of an American heart from the echo chambers of Israel. Kind of priceless. :)
 
Well, brother, we can read into events and words all that we like. The result is more likely ideas that are heavily colored by our own individual points of view rather than by objective reality.

Personally, I believe we should take Mike Huckabee's words at face value. Knowing his genuine Christian walk, I believe his words are coming from his heart and accurately express his view of the president. And, for the record, I agree with him.
 
Trump is giving a lot of credit to the US insofar as the accomplishments in the war against Iran... unless when he says "we" he means Israel and the US (and maybe others who have also helped defensively), in which case I like the idea that the US is Israel's partner in this war. May God crush Israel's enemies while protecting Israel, the country and its people. Hoping to see some bunker busters unleashed soon. That would free up Israeli fighters to focus on other important matters. I hope the B-2s are already headed to Iran. They can fly their missions from their US bases and return. It's easier on the crews, of course, if their mission isn't that long.
 
For those who don't have time to read the entire article, here is what Mike Huckabee said on Truth Social:

"Mr President, God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century-maybe ever. The decisions on your shoulders I would not want to be made by anyone else. You have many voices speaking to you Sir, but there is only ONE voice that matters. HIS voice.

"I am your appointed servant in this land and am available for you but I do not try to get in your presence often because I trust your instincts. No President in my lifetime has been in a position like yours. Not since Truman in 1945. I don't reach out to persuade you. Only to encourage vou. I believe vou will hear from heaven and that voice is far more important than mine or ANYONE else's. You sent me to Israel to be your eyes, ears and voice and to make sure our flag flies above our embassy.

"My job is to be the last one to leave. I will not abandon this post. Our flag will NOT come down! You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU! It is my honor to serve you!"
WOW!!!! Beautiful, bold, upstanding!!! 🏆
 
From the article:

The mistake the America First isolationists make is to view what is happening in Iran as a foreign war. It is not. Due to a lack of biblical knowledge --or even a knowledge of history in general-- they presume that what Iran does poses no direct threat to America. Sadly, they are blind in their ignorance and, therefore, the decisions they are making, thinking they will protect America, will in fact place America in great danger.

The place to fight the Muslim extremists of Iran is thousands of miles away IN Iran, not once they have struck America's heartland. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if the Iranian mullahs succeed in making nuclear weapons, innocent people in America will die and have their cities contaminated for hundreds of years. Iran's hatred for America (the term Great Satan is not just a meaningless phrase to them: it is how they view us) is such that they will not simply strike military or political targets: they will willingly and intentionally strike civilian population centers, just as they are doing in Israel right now.
Well said!

I have been online trying to desperately reason with “Christians” who have become pro Iran. I am at it daily with a disillusioned sister in Christ

I am exhausted! Been at it for 2 weeks

Like talking to brick walls!

Jack Hibbs message on Sunday was great if nobody has heard yet. Good refresher on the maps!

At least all this debating has me definitely in full armor of God mode. “Be ready with an answer”


Miss you all, haven’t been far. I do nightly check-ins in the chats. So busy working with my “wayward” family, running the business, praying! This is getting dizzying!
 
Well said!

I have been online trying to desperately reason with “Christians” who have become pro Iran. I am at it daily with a disillusioned sister in Christ

I am exhausted! Been at it for 2 weeks

Like talking to brick walls!

Jack Hibbs message on Sunday was great if nobody has heard yet. Good refresher on the maps!

At least all this debating has me definitely in full armor of God mode. “Be ready with an answer”


Miss you all, haven’t been far. I do nightly check-ins in the chats. So busy working with my “wayward” family, running the business, praying! This is getting dizzying!
What I saw of it is good, I fell asleep trying to watch it so I will have to go back and watch it. Jack believes we are :rapture:d out before Gog & Magog-Ezekiel 38.
 
Have you and Mike visited the monument in the NE that Kirk Cameron has made a movie about? - YouTube

I think our governments do have a limited power over us, and as @mattfivefour points out, we have the power of Christ to live fruitful lives under any regime. But it makes sense that our lives are more peaceful and productive under less oppressive regimes. I would add our brother @TCC's observation re: Iran

Wow. Hollie. That is really neat. Thanks for that. At the bottom I have included a video of the real one too. Fascinating hisotry.

  • Massachusetss Bay Colony Charter 1629 -- granted significant self governing rights
  • Massachusetss Charter 1691 -- merged with Plymouth colony charter
  • the Glorious Revolution (in England) 1668 -- shifting power from sole monarchy to parliament share
  • the Boston Massacre 1770
  • the first continental Congress 1774
  • the split of rule king George III and parliament led to this conclusion:

Ultimately, a Lack of Consensus:
The conflict ultimately led to war, as neither the King nor Parliament were able to find a satisfactory way to address the colonists' grievances and maintain British control,


THE WAY I WOULD CAPTURE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION IS ON THE HEALS OF PROVIDENTIAL HISTORY CHANGE-UPS
It would appear that a lack of good management meant the Jeopardy of survival and family care in colonies. Which meant the necessity of leaning on previous notions of self-rule. Something I don't find listed often in regards to the American Revolution is that the species of the Glorious Revolution that preceded it. Which seemingly engendered an American Revolution inevitability. The time had come for the king and queen age to start fading. The uncertainty of how that can be managed was the condition under which the American Revolution formed. Out of the flux of opinions between king and parliamentary rule. Neither produced leadership quality concerning the future of the colonies. Leaving them to self rule in the vacuum.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Background:
    James II's policies, particularly his promotion of Catholicism and his attempts to rule without Parliament, led to widespread discontent.

  • Invitation to William:
    A group of prominent English politicians invited William of Orange to invade England, concerned about James II's Catholic policies and potential dynasty.

  • Invasion and Abdication:
    William's forces landed in England in November 1688, and James II fled to France.

  • Establishment of William and Mary:
    Parliament declared the throne vacant and offered it to William and Mary, who accepted the Declaration of Rights, which limited the powers of the monarchy and affirmed parliamentary authority.
    • It established parliamentary sovereignty, meaning that Parliament became the supreme power in England.

    • It limited the power of the monarchy, establishing a constitutional monarchy rather than an absolute one.

    • It led to the passage of the Bill of Rights of 1689, which further restricted royal power and guaranteed certain rights to citizens, including the right to petition the monarch and the right to bear arms.

    • It marked a shift towards a more stable and predictable political system, contributing to England's economic development.

    • It had a lasting impact on the development of British constitutional law and political thought.
CONCLUSION
Sure there were rebellions. Sure there were bad attitudes toward England. By this it doesn't mean to justify rebellion. But it was not a pocket of people in England trying to turn over their own government. It was the half hazard confused leadership from the mainland in how to handle a far a way province--with many lives in the balance. And the lack of good management would inevitably result in discord. Proof of not knowing how to handle discord, I believe, is the number one ingredient for the American Revolution. For the contintal Congress was willing to work with the king. But the king would not recognize how bad the mismanagement of rule over the colonies had become--or if he did, cared to address it. This aborts leadership integrity over the people one rules over. And understandable why it could not be trusted. Do we go with the king and let our families die, or protect our families and oppose the king? And although that is not justified rebellion, it is not the same as overthrowing a government. It seemed more like affirming the need of reasonable rule over the colonies. That would be the way I would look at it.



. . . . .

I must say that video you shared is like a pop-up version of the story board of America. It is often thought of as America being a Christian Nation or a Freemason Empire build out. I believe there were roots in both. But pound for pound I believe America although founded with biblical intent, was thought not to be governed via religion. Yes biblical principles. But not as a religious nation state. For state religion was a main reason why they did not remain in England. Therefore having created a Constituion that would reflect hopefully biblical principle more than how a state can twist religion would be the constitution intent I believe.

Many scholars associate Daniels Lion w/wings vision as Babylon (some Egypt). We are never told. And there is much assumption. Let's say that is accurate. Babylon. What is unmistakable though is that if we are near the dragon beast empire timeframe, it is interesting that since the 1700s, the world major shift kingdom empire style rule blended significantly toward democracy. To such an extent, its exploits most noted in America today. Whether a fit or not, there is absolutely no mistake that the example of democracy = America as "the world super power!" With its president recently again been noted as perhaps the only man for the decisions needed for our alingments and difficutlies of our day. We can hem and haw over interpretation. But what is clear, for what ever it means or does not mean, we are where we are. And its that real. Blessings.
 

‘We Now Have Complete And Total Control’: Trump Confirms U.S. is Part of Conflict With Iran​


President Donald Trump appeared to offer confirmation that the United States is now participating in Israel’s attack on Iran in a Tuesday social media post.

Amid escalating tensions and the exchange of bombings after Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities last week, Trump has faced questions about the extent of U.S. involvement in the conflict. In a new post on Truth Social using the term “We,” Trump wrote: “We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured “stuff.” Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.”

Screenshot-2025-06-17-at-12-03-11-PM.jpg

Screenshot
Politico White House reporter Jake Traylor confirmed with a White House official that “we” in Trump’s post is indeed referring to the United States.

The Trump administration was initially wary of Israel’s strikes that set off the latest round of fighting, with Secretary of State Marco Rubio was quick to insist that Israel acted “unilaterally.” Yet as the White House realized the strikes had been a success, Trump publicly backed Israel’s escalation, according to the New York Times.

Complete Article


It looks like the extent of U.S. involvement is the provision of American-made stuff, not that the U.S. took part in the use of that stuff.

IDK if the U.S. refuelers that were in an article up-thread are serving Israeli aircraft, but providing in-flight refueling is still just providing stuff.

I hate spin.

If/when the U.S. is involved, the info will get released, IAW military operational security. Of course, once something/someone is seen somewhere, the cat'll be out of the bag.
 
If/when the U.S. is involved, the info will get released, IAW military operational security. Of course, once something/someone is seen somewhere, the cat'll be out of the bag.

There are two B-2s airborne, and somewhere, but nobody knows where... They're really good in terms of invisibility. Assuming they're headed to Fordow, there will be no warning before the first MOP hits. I imagine it'll cause the earth to quake in the area. I guess we'll see... hopefully...
 
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