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Israel strikes Iran’s South Pars gas field in coordinated move with the US over Hormuz tensions

Israel struck Iran’s South Pars gas field on Wednesday in an operation coordinated with the United States, according to multiple reports, in what officials described as part of an effort to pressure Tehran over threats to shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.

Channel 12 reported that the strike on the offshore facility in the Persian Gulf, the largest gas field in the world, was carried out in coordination with Washington and intended to convey a message from US President Donald Trump regarding maritime access through the strategic waterway.
The South Pars field, shared by Iran and Qatar, is the largest natural gas field in the world and a key energy resource in the region. The strike marked a move targeting major Iranian energy infrastructure.

The reports frame the strike as part of coordinated US-Israeli efforts tied to concerns over navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.

 
Israel struck Iran’s South Pars gas field on Wednesday in an operation coordinated with the United States, according to multiple reports, in what officials described as part of an effort to pressure Tehran over threats to shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.

Channel 12 reported that the strike on the offshore facility in the Persian Gulf, the largest gas field in the world, was carried out in coordination with Washington and intended to convey a message from US President Donald Trump regarding maritime access through the strategic waterway.
The South Pars field, shared by Iran and Qatar, is the largest natural gas field in the world and a key energy resource in the region. The strike marked a move targeting major Iranian energy infrastructure.

The reports frame the strike as part of coordinated US-Israeli efforts tied to concerns over navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.

Im confused with the news reporting on this attack on Iran’s South Pars gas field.

The OP reports, quote:
Israel struck Iran’s South Pars gas field on Wednesday in an operation coordinated with the United States.

Here is the title on this attack from YNet News:

Netanyahu, Trump coordinated Iran gas strike; Israel braces for retaliation on energy infrastructure​



Now Im seeing a different side of the story about the attack

Trump Announces Israel “Violently Lashed Out” and Hit Gas Fields in Iran, Claims US “KNEW NOTHING” of Attack and “NO MORE ATTACKS WILL BE MADE BY ISRAEL”​


Trump says Israel executed another attack, which the US “knew nothing about” and that “Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen.”

Full statement below:

Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars Gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of the whole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack, and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen.

Unfortunately, Iran did not know this, or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack, and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar’s LNG Gas facility. NO MORE ATTACKS WILL BE MADE BY ISRAEL pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars Field unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent, in this case, Qatar – In which instance the United States of America, with or without the help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the entirety of the South Pars Gas Field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before.

I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction because of the long term implications that it will have on the future of Iran, but if Qatar’s LNG is again attacked, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP

So did Israel and the US mutually coordinate with each other for the attack on Iran’s South Pars gas field or not?
 
Im confused with the news reporting on this attack on Iran’s South Pars gas field.

The OP reports, quote:
Israel struck Iran’s South Pars gas field on Wednesday in an operation coordinated with the United States.

Here is the title on this attack from YNet News:

Netanyahu, Trump coordinated Iran gas strike; Israel braces for retaliation on energy infrastructure​



Now Im seeing a different side of the story about the attack

Trump Announces Israel “Violently Lashed Out” and Hit Gas Fields in Iran, Claims US “KNEW NOTHING” of Attack and “NO MORE ATTACKS WILL BE MADE BY ISRAEL”​


Trump says Israel executed another attack, which the US “knew nothing about” and that “Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen.”

Full statement below:



So did Israel and the US mutually coordinate with each other for the attack on Iran’s South Pars gas field or not?
This is from Amir's Telegram addressing the statement Trump made on the attack:


Trump’s statement on the Israeli strike on the gas field - an opportunity to understand the gap between his “language” and his “actions,” in typical Trump fashion.

The media is largely populist, so here’s a practical translation (i.e., “Trump is flipping”) into what it actually means:

Trump:
Israel, out of anger over what has happened in the Middle East, violently attacked a large facility known as the South Pars gas field in Iran. A relatively small part of it was damaged. The United States had no prior knowledge of this specific attack.

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“I have a crazy friend who can hurt you - I almost feel sorry for you. I’m not taking responsibility for what happened, so Iran shouldn’t complain.”



Trump:
Qatar was not involved in any way, nor did it have any knowledge this was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this - or any of the relevant facts regarding the South Pars attack - and unjustly and unfairly struck part of Qatar’s LNG gas facility.

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“Qatar is weak and can’t defend itself - it should be grateful to the U.S. and will pay for that protection later.”



Trump:
There will be no further Israeli attacks regarding the extremely important and valuable South Pars gas field - unless Iran makes the unwise decision to attack innocent Qatar again. In that case, the United States of America, with or without Israel’s help or consent, will massively destroy the entire South Pars gas field with a force Iran has never seen before. I do not want to authorize such a level of violence and destruction due to its long-term consequences for Iran’s future - but if Qatar’s LNG is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
• President Donald J. Trump

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“I’m imposing a ceasefire in the energy domain. If the IRGC violates it - and they might - the U.S. will join the fight this time. Israel, obviously, won’t object to a massive strike on Iran. He simply doesn’t want Israel to appear too dominant - which is smart from a messaging standpoint.”



Summary:
1. Trump does not want to appear as if he is being led by Israel. That’s good for him - and good for us. The U.S. and Israel are highly coordinated. He isn’t trying to undermine Israel, just to maintain his own posture.
2. Qatar is portrayed as weak and dependent.
3. Trump is effectively laying the groundwork for a potential massive strike on Iran.



In the naïve mainstream media, the debate will once again revolve around:
“Is Trump going to turn on us?”

That’s because most of the political class, media, NGOs, and opinion-shapers in Israel have never actually conducted real negotiations - and don’t understand the language of businessmen.

Until victory.

(Topaz Ram)


 
This is from Amir's Telegram addressing the statement Trump made on the attack:


Trump’s statement on the Israeli strike on the gas field - an opportunity to understand the gap between his “language” and his “actions,” in typical Trump fashion.

The media is largely populist, so here’s a practical translation (i.e., “Trump is flipping”) into what it actually means:

Trump:
Israel, out of anger over what has happened in the Middle East, violently attacked a large facility known as the South Pars gas field in Iran. A relatively small part of it was damaged. The United States had no prior knowledge of this specific attack.

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“I have a crazy friend who can hurt you - I almost feel sorry for you. I’m not taking responsibility for what happened, so Iran shouldn’t complain.”



Trump:
Qatar was not involved in any way, nor did it have any knowledge this was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this - or any of the relevant facts regarding the South Pars attack - and unjustly and unfairly struck part of Qatar’s LNG gas facility.

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“Qatar is weak and can’t defend itself - it should be grateful to the U.S. and will pay for that protection later.”



Trump:
There will be no further Israeli attacks regarding the extremely important and valuable South Pars gas field - unless Iran makes the unwise decision to attack innocent Qatar again. In that case, the United States of America, with or without Israel’s help or consent, will massively destroy the entire South Pars gas field with a force Iran has never seen before. I do not want to authorize such a level of violence and destruction due to its long-term consequences for Iran’s future - but if Qatar’s LNG is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
• President Donald J. Trump

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“I’m imposing a ceasefire in the energy domain. If the IRGC violates it - and they might - the U.S. will join the fight this time. Israel, obviously, won’t object to a massive strike on Iran. He simply doesn’t want Israel to appear too dominant - which is smart from a messaging standpoint.”



Summary:
1. Trump does not want to appear as if he is being led by Israel. That’s good for him - and good for us. The U.S. and Israel are highly coordinated. He isn’t trying to undermine Israel, just to maintain his own posture.
2. Qatar is portrayed as weak and dependent.
3. Trump is effectively laying the groundwork for a potential massive strike on Iran.



In the naïve mainstream media, the debate will once again revolve around:
“Is Trump going to turn on us?”

That’s because most of the political class, media, NGOs, and opinion-shapers in Israel have never actually conducted real negotiations - and don’t understand the language of businessmen.

Until victory.

(Topaz Ram)


Makes sense now with a translator 😂
 
This is from Amir's Telegram addressing the statement Trump made on the attack:


Trump’s statement on the Israeli strike on the gas field - an opportunity to understand the gap between his “language” and his “actions,” in typical Trump fashion.

The media is largely populist, so here’s a practical translation (i.e., “Trump is flipping”) into what it actually means:

Trump:
Israel, out of anger over what has happened in the Middle East, violently attacked a large facility known as the South Pars gas field in Iran. A relatively small part of it was damaged. The United States had no prior knowledge of this specific attack.

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“I have a crazy friend who can hurt you - I almost feel sorry for you. I’m not taking responsibility for what happened, so Iran shouldn’t complain.”



Trump:
Qatar was not involved in any way, nor did it have any knowledge this was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this - or any of the relevant facts regarding the South Pars attack - and unjustly and unfairly struck part of Qatar’s LNG gas facility.

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“Qatar is weak and can’t defend itself - it should be grateful to the U.S. and will pay for that protection later.”



Trump:
There will be no further Israeli attacks regarding the extremely important and valuable South Pars gas field - unless Iran makes the unwise decision to attack innocent Qatar again. In that case, the United States of America, with or without Israel’s help or consent, will massively destroy the entire South Pars gas field with a force Iran has never seen before. I do not want to authorize such a level of violence and destruction due to its long-term consequences for Iran’s future - but if Qatar’s LNG is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
• President Donald J. Trump

PRACTICAL TRANSLATION:
“I’m imposing a ceasefire in the energy domain. If the IRGC violates it - and they might - the U.S. will join the fight this time. Israel, obviously, won’t object to a massive strike on Iran. He simply doesn’t want Israel to appear too dominant - which is smart from a messaging standpoint.”



Summary:
1. Trump does not want to appear as if he is being led by Israel. That’s good for him - and good for us. The U.S. and Israel are highly coordinated. He isn’t trying to undermine Israel, just to maintain his own posture.
2. Qatar is portrayed as weak and dependent.
3. Trump is effectively laying the groundwork for a potential massive strike on Iran.



In the naïve mainstream media, the debate will once again revolve around:
“Is Trump going to turn on us?”

That’s because most of the political class, media, NGOs, and opinion-shapers in Israel have never actually conducted real negotiations - and don’t understand the language of businessmen.

Until victory.

(Topaz Ram)


That is actually very helpful.
 
Trump is mimicking the type of thing than Iran does with itself and its proxies. He's basically rubbing their nose in the dirt and having fun doing it.
LOL what about this translation :

"Trump said Japan is "stepping up to the plate," contrasting the country's response with NATO allies. He stated the US has had "tremendous support and relationship with Japan on everything."

During the meeting, a reporter asked Trump why the US didn't inform Japan and European allies before striking Iran. Trump responded by asking Takaichi, "Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?" Takaichi did not respond to the question.
"
 
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