I guess Amir was wrong about that, since they successfully played the same card again the next day.
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I guess Amir was wrong about that, since they successfully played the same card again the next day.
Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
For a very long time, various groups (terrorists, families, clans, look-outs, etc.) have been known to send code via minarets
Metal, wood (hollow or solid), or rock striking the stones/bricks the minaret is constructed of can be heard a long way, espeially when from an elevated position. Different striking materials create different sounds, plus varying rhythms, cadences, numbers of strikes, Morse Code, private codes, etc. tell hearers different things.
Minarets using an electric-powered PA system (virtually all these days) are vulnerable to power outages/interruptions/needing battery or generator back-up
Minarets with a live caller using traditional voice projection are vulnerable to sniper.
A man must be extremely skilled to use traditional voice projection effectively, even though the minaret is tall and the chamber, from which the call to blasphemy is called, is at/very near the top.
Voice projection from minarets is no different than a Pastor, who preaches without benefit of modern technology, using only his voice and the acoustical characteristics of his church. Example: the rounded front of many Orthodox churches isn't just artistic architectural style, it also has an important functional purpose. The rounded area, left empty of everything, except maybe a wood or metal cross, and sometimes painted with Biblical scenes or characters, reflects the Priest (Pastor's) voice out to the Congregation, so they can hear what he is saying, and he doesn't have to yell to be heard. In some churches with this type of architecture, from the back of the Sanctuary, one can hear a whisper from the pulpit, altar, or ambo (lectern). Elevation of the pulpit and caps over the tops of some pulpits are examples of church furnishings, which assist the Pastor project his voice to the Congregation. Many synagogues also employ architecture and specific furnishings to assist the Rabbis and Cantors project their voices while conducting services. This is particularly important for Orthodox and many Conservative Congregations, because they cannot turn on electricity on the Sabbath, precluding the use of modern technology during Sabbath services. The work-around is a Gentile being employed to turn the electricty on and off, and work any sound boards, projection screens, etc., but even this isn't allowed/practiced in some places.
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For a very long time, various groups (terrorists, families, clans, look-outs, etc.) have been known to send code via minarets
Metal, wood (hollow or solid), or rock striking the stones/bricks the minaret is constructed of can be heard a long way, espeially when from an elevated position. Different striking materials create different sounds, plus varying rhythms, cadences, numbers of strikes, Morse Code, private codes, etc. tell hearers different things.
Maybe they could ready material for burning on the high places so when they see the Israel war machine coming they can use fire to alert their fighters across Lebanon
Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
Maybe they could ready material for burning on the high places so when they see the Israel war machine coming they can use fire to alert their fighters across Lebanon
Maybe metal on metal . . .
. . . oh, wait, that's for when President Putin gets desperate and does something especially stupid and despicable
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Little did he know
Seems that new heroes in the (Israeli) Fight for Independence (and to keep independence) are made every day, even if it happens decades after their contribution
Andiamo
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My husband and I are floored at this whole thing and not once but twice! I wonder what Israel has up their sleeve next.
I don’t know if anyone else has seen this. But just viewing a few clips of MSM on YouTube…they are barely mentioning Hezbollah…some not at all…making it appear it was directed at Lebanese people in general, to those who didn’t know better. And some are reporting the injuries in emotional tones of pity.
Pity for terrorists who would kill an Israeli child in a heartbeat!
I don’t know if anyone else has seen this. But just viewing a few clips of MSM on YouTube…they are barely mentioning Hezbollah…some not at all…making it appear it was directed at Lebanese people in general, to those who didn’t know better. And some are reporting the injuries in emotional tones of pity.
Pity for terrorists who would kill an Israeli child in a heartbeat!
Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
If I had a T shirt that said Visit Israel Before Israel Visits You, today would be a good day to visit Cedar Riverside (huge muslim area here) or maybe sit outside a mosque on a bus stop bench 
or maybe sit outside a mosque on a bus stop bench 
Spartan Sprinter
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wonder if it will be a trifecta and another bunch of devices explode ?
Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
Walkie-Talkie Explosions Injure Hundreds in Lebanon a Day After Pager Attacks. Here’s How the News Unfolded
"A company based in Hungary was responsible for manufacturing pagers that exploded in an apparent Israeli operation targeting Hezbollah, another firm said. Pagers exploded nearly simultaneously on Tuesday in Lebanon and Syria."
"3:52 PM CDT
Death toll from Wednesday’s explosions rises to 20, according to Lebanon’s Health Ministry
3:24 PM CDT
Walkie-talkie maker says exploded devices appear to have been knockoffs
2:07 PM CDT
Walkie-talkies and other devices exploded at a funeral for Hezbollah leaders
1:10 PM CDT
Lebanon’s Health Ministry says 14 people killed and over 450 wounded in Wednesday’s explosions"
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Walkie-talkie explosions injure hundreds in Lebanon a day after pager attacks. Here's how the news unfolded
Walkie-talkies and other devices exploded suddenly Wednesday at the site of a funeral for three Hezbollah members and a child killed by exploding pagers the day before. Lebanon’s health ministry says at least nine people were killed and 300 were wounded.
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1LoverofGod
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Former CIA director: Israel pager attack 'a form of terrorism'
Former CIA director Leon Panetta called Israel's targeted pager attack on Hezbollah terrorists last week "a form of terrorism" in an interview on CBS on Sunday.
Asked whether he thought Israel should be condemned for the operation, he said, "The nations of the world need to have a serious discussion about whether or not this is an area that everyone has to focus on because if they don't try to deal with it now.
"Mark my words, it is the battlefield for the future," Panetta added.
"The ability to place an explosive in technology that is very prevalent these days, and turn it into a war of terror. I don't think that there's any question that this is a form of terrorism," he continued.
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Former CIA director Leon Panetta called Israel's targeted pager attack on Hezbollah terrorists last week "a form of terrorism" in an interview on CBS on Sunday.
Asked whether he thought Israel should be condemned for the operation, he said, "The nations of the world need to have a serious discussion about whether or not this is an area that everyone has to focus on because if they don't try to deal with it now.
"Mark my words, it is the battlefield for the future," Panetta added.
"The ability to place an explosive in technology that is very prevalent these days, and turn it into a war of terror. I don't think that there's any question that this is a form of terrorism," he continued.
Pager operation will have repercussions - Panetta
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Former CIA director: Israel pager attack 'a form of terrorism'
He also noted his worry in the interview, describing the pager attack operation as something "that has repercussions.
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1LoverofGod
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This is plainly a bad assessment of what was done with those pagers.Former CIA director: Israel pager attack 'a form of terrorism'
Former CIA director Leon Panetta called Israel's targeted pager attack on Hezbollah terrorists last week "a form of terrorism" in an interview on CBS on Sunday.
Asked whether he thought Israel should be condemned for the operation, he said, "The nations of the world need to have a serious discussion about whether or not this is an area that everyone has to focus on because if they don't try to deal with it now.
"Mark my words, it is the battlefield for the future," Panetta added.
"The ability to place an explosive in technology that is very prevalent these days, and turn it into a war of terror. I don't think that there's any question that this is a form of terrorism," he continued.
Pager operation will have repercussions - Panetta
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Former CIA director: Israel pager attack 'a form of terrorism'
He also noted his worry in the interview, describing the pager attack operation as something "that has repercussions.
First of all, Israel hasn't even taken responsibility for it.
And if Israel did this, it was one of the most precision targeting of only Hezbollah and it's associates.
As IDF member David Tal said
"It was a Merciful targeting because the explosions occurred as targeted on the Hezbollah and there wasn't a casualty situation where civilians were unintentionally injured or killed."
How despicable that The true terrorists are not condemned for the atrocities of October 7.
Someone is always ahead of everything to pin all of the blame on Israel for simply defending itself against terrorists that publicly cry out their passion to kill all of the Jewish people.
Not surprising since retired Congressman Panetta is a Democrat ... and a California Democrat at that.
Ghoti Ichthus
Genesis 18:32, 2 Chronicles 7:14, Acts 5:29
At least there's the modifier: FORMER
pixelpusher
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I have to say tho, my initial glee over the creativity of Operation Grim Beeper was tempered when I read Proverbs 24 and came to 17 and 18:
17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls,
And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles;
18 Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him,
And He turn away His wrath from him.
We know the Lord takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. It was just such a novel attack.
17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls,
And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles;
18 Lest the Lord see it, and it displease Him,
And He turn away His wrath from him.
We know the Lord takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. It was just such a novel attack.
Re voice projection, being mainly a flatlander, I didn't know this, but I saw an episode of Sergio and Rhoda in Israel where they were at the place David slew Goliath. She was up on the mountainside, and Sergio went way down into the valley. They could hear each other clearly.
It is true, the Lord takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked. Therefore, if we are his children, neither should we. Any soul that dies without salvation is a soul created by God but lost to Him forever. Surely that is a cosmic tragedy.
But the passage you refer to in Proverbs is speaking of an individual, personal enemy, not a national enemy. The wording is all in the singular; in other words it is speaking to an individual and of an individual, not to (or of) a group. Thus it is speaking of a specific someone with whom you are at odds. When the person you don't like or who has caused you pain stumbles or falls, you are not to rejoice or gloat. As Jesus said, we should pray for our enemies and those who despitefully use us. But a nation out to destroy your nation is a different matter.
If it were wrong for Israel to have rejoiced when they inflicted defeat on an enemy, the Bible surely would not have recorded such rejoicing in favorable terms. 2 Chronicles 20:27 says: "Then they returned, every man of Judah and Jerusalem, with Jehoshaphat in front of them, to go back to Jerusalem with joy, for the LORD had made them rejoice over their enemies." Enemies refers to those who were out to destroy the nation of Israel.
That said, I believe that the teaching of the Bible is that our rejoicing should not be over the death of our enemies but rather our rejoicing should be in the fact that God has delivered us. We should rejoice that it is God's hand that has brought success in our battles, rather than rejoice in the destruction of our enemy. I believe that when our enemies are destroyed, it should cause us to have a holy fear of the power of God Almighty who can overthrow any enemy, any nation, any power in the universe. Yes, we should rejoice at deliverance from the one who threatens us; but I believe that the Bible demonstrates that our rejoicing should be focused on God, not simply on our own good.
Anyway, just a couple of thoughts off the top of my head.
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