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God Is Using Israel To Try To Get The Attention Of The World… Yet even Many Christians Are Not Listening

Tall Timbers

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I am amazed by how many Christians seem unsure of where they should stand on the topic of Israel. Others openly oppose it altogether. And yet, the God we serve—the God of Israel—is using the Jewish State to try to get the attention of the world.

That is what we read in Ezekiel 36:19-24, when God speaks about the Jewish people living in disobedience: “So I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed throughout the countries; I judged them according to their ways and their deeds. When they came to the nations, wherever they went, they profaned My holy name—when they said of them, ‘These are the people of the Lord, and yet they have gone out of His land.’ But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went. ‘Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: ‘I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,’ says the Lord God, ‘when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land.”

The nations should recognize and know the Lord because of the miraculous things that He is doing today concerning Israel. Unfortunately, they don’t! They have not read nor believed in God’s word. But for Bible-believing Christians to follow in the world’s ways is unimaginable! It’s hard to fathom that they could be so ignorant of what God is doing.

The sad reality is that more and more Christians are embracing replacement theology, which teaches that either the church has replaced Israel or it is the “real and true Israel.” Many even believe that modern-day Israel is just a result of political operatives after World War II, and therefore, it has no business being discussed at the pulpit.

None of those Christian leaders and churches that embrace replacement theology would disagree that God literally scattered the Jewish people to the four corners of the earth as a result of their disobedience. They take no issue with that. However, when it comes to Israel’s regathering, somehow, they shift gears. They go to great lengths to try to prove that God doesn’t really mean what He says.

I say, if the political is biblical, we’d better start talking about it from our pulpits. The truth is that God says what He means and means what He says.

Consider these verses.

In Genesis 15:18, we read, “On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: ‘To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates'”

In Genesis 17:7-8, God says, “I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

Psalm 105:8-11 powerfully states, “He remembers His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac, And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel as an everlasting covenant, Saying, ‘To you I will give the land of Canaan As the allotment of your inheritance.'”

When God made this covenant with Abraham some 4,000 years ago, Abraham was in a deep sleep, and God swore it by Himself: “For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself” (Hebrews 6:13). Thus, as we read in Ezekiel 36, it is God’s name that is at stake because of the promises that He has made.

Here are a few more verses.

Jeremiah 23:7-8 states, “‘Therefore, behold, the days are coming,’ says the Lord, ‘that they shall no longer say, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ but, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up and led the descendants of the house of Israel from the north country and from all the countries where I had driven them.’ And they shall dwell in their own land.'”

Jeremiah 31:8-10 reads, “Behold, I will bring them from the north country, And gather them from the ends of the earth, Among them the blind and the lame, The woman with child And the one who labors with child, together; A great throng shall return there. They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn. ‘Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.’”

Can it be any more clear? Here is one more verse that should silence all of the naysayers: “Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name): ‘If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever'” (Jeremiah 31:35-36).

In other words, as long as the sun, moon, and stars are shining in the sky and the function of this world is intact, Israel is going to remain before God forever as a nation. Period.

God has done something truly extraordinary right before our very eyes. Can’t you see it? Israel stands today as a living modern-day miracle. Never before in all human history has there been a people scattered across the nations, exiled from their ancestral homeland for 2,000 years, only to return, rebuild their desolate cities, restore the land, and cause the desert itself to bloom once again.

God is calling for the world’s attention. To the Christians who still deny what He has done, I ask you: what more will it take for God to capture your attention?

 
I am amazed by how many Christians seem unsure of where they should stand on the topic of Israel. Others openly oppose it altogether. And yet, the God we serve—the God of Israel—is using the Jewish State to try to get the attention of the world.

That is what we read in Ezekiel 36:19-24, when God speaks about the Jewish people living in disobedience: “So I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed throughout the countries; I judged them according to their ways and their deeds. When they came to the nations, wherever they went, they profaned My holy name—when they said of them, ‘These are the people of the Lord, and yet they have gone out of His land.’ But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went. ‘Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: ‘I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,’ says the Lord God, ‘when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land.”

The nations should recognize and know the Lord because of the miraculous things that He is doing today concerning Israel. Unfortunately, they don’t! They have not read nor believed in God’s word. But for Bible-believing Christians to follow in the world’s ways is unimaginable! It’s hard to fathom that they could be so ignorant of what God is doing.

The sad reality is that more and more Christians are embracing replacement theology, which teaches that either the church has replaced Israel or it is the “real and true Israel.” Many even believe that modern-day Israel is just a result of political operatives after World War II, and therefore, it has no business being discussed at the pulpit.

None of those Christian leaders and churches that embrace replacement theology would disagree that God literally scattered the Jewish people to the four corners of the earth as a result of their disobedience. They take no issue with that. However, when it comes to Israel’s regathering, somehow, they shift gears. They go to great lengths to try to prove that God doesn’t really mean what He says.

I say, if the political is biblical, we’d better start talking about it from our pulpits. The truth is that God says what He means and means what He says.

Consider these verses.

In Genesis 15:18, we read, “On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: ‘To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates'”

In Genesis 17:7-8, God says, “I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

Psalm 105:8-11 powerfully states, “He remembers His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac, And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel as an everlasting covenant, Saying, ‘To you I will give the land of Canaan As the allotment of your inheritance.'”

When God made this covenant with Abraham some 4,000 years ago, Abraham was in a deep sleep, and God swore it by Himself: “For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself” (Hebrews 6:13). Thus, as we read in Ezekiel 36, it is God’s name that is at stake because of the promises that He has made.

Here are a few more verses.

Jeremiah 23:7-8 states, “‘Therefore, behold, the days are coming,’ says the Lord, ‘that they shall no longer say, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ but, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up and led the descendants of the house of Israel from the north country and from all the countries where I had driven them.’ And they shall dwell in their own land.'”

Jeremiah 31:8-10 reads, “Behold, I will bring them from the north country, And gather them from the ends of the earth, Among them the blind and the lame, The woman with child And the one who labors with child, together; A great throng shall return there. They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn. ‘Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.’”

Can it be any more clear? Here is one more verse that should silence all of the naysayers: “Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name): ‘If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever'” (Jeremiah 31:35-36).

In other words, as long as the sun, moon, and stars are shining in the sky and the function of this world is intact, Israel is going to remain before God forever as a nation. Period.

God has done something truly extraordinary right before our very eyes. Can’t you see it? Israel stands today as a living modern-day miracle. Never before in all human history has there been a people scattered across the nations, exiled from their ancestral homeland for 2,000 years, only to return, rebuild their desolate cities, restore the land, and cause the desert itself to bloom once again.

God is calling for the world’s attention. To the Christians who still deny what He has done, I ask you: what more will it take for God to capture your attention?

AMEN!
 
I am amazed by how many Christians seem unsure of where they should stand on the topic of Israel. Others openly oppose it altogether. And yet, the God we serve—the God of Israel—is using the Jewish State to try to get the attention of the world.

That is what we read in Ezekiel 36:19-24, when God speaks about the Jewish people living in disobedience: “So I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed throughout the countries; I judged them according to their ways and their deeds. When they came to the nations, wherever they went, they profaned My holy name—when they said of them, ‘These are the people of the Lord, and yet they have gone out of His land.’ But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went. ‘Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: ‘I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,’ says the Lord God, ‘when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land.”

The nations should recognize and know the Lord because of the miraculous things that He is doing today concerning Israel. Unfortunately, they don’t! They have not read nor believed in God’s word. But for Bible-believing Christians to follow in the world’s ways is unimaginable! It’s hard to fathom that they could be so ignorant of what God is doing.

The sad reality is that more and more Christians are embracing replacement theology, which teaches that either the church has replaced Israel or it is the “real and true Israel.” Many even believe that modern-day Israel is just a result of political operatives after World War II, and therefore, it has no business being discussed at the pulpit.

None of those Christian leaders and churches that embrace replacement theology would disagree that God literally scattered the Jewish people to the four corners of the earth as a result of their disobedience. They take no issue with that. However, when it comes to Israel’s regathering, somehow, they shift gears. They go to great lengths to try to prove that God doesn’t really mean what He says.

I say, if the political is biblical, we’d better start talking about it from our pulpits. The truth is that God says what He means and means what He says.

Consider these verses.

In Genesis 15:18, we read, “On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: ‘To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates'”

In Genesis 17:7-8, God says, “I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

Psalm 105:8-11 powerfully states, “He remembers His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac, And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel as an everlasting covenant, Saying, ‘To you I will give the land of Canaan As the allotment of your inheritance.'”

When God made this covenant with Abraham some 4,000 years ago, Abraham was in a deep sleep, and God swore it by Himself: “For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself” (Hebrews 6:13). Thus, as we read in Ezekiel 36, it is God’s name that is at stake because of the promises that He has made.

Here are a few more verses.

Jeremiah 23:7-8 states, “‘Therefore, behold, the days are coming,’ says the Lord, ‘that they shall no longer say, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ but, ‘As the Lord lives who brought up and led the descendants of the house of Israel from the north country and from all the countries where I had driven them.’ And they shall dwell in their own land.'”

Jeremiah 31:8-10 reads, “Behold, I will bring them from the north country, And gather them from the ends of the earth, Among them the blind and the lame, The woman with child And the one who labors with child, together; A great throng shall return there. They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn. ‘Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.’”

Can it be any more clear? Here is one more verse that should silence all of the naysayers: “Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name): ‘If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever'” (Jeremiah 31:35-36).

In other words, as long as the sun, moon, and stars are shining in the sky and the function of this world is intact, Israel is going to remain before God forever as a nation. Period.

God has done something truly extraordinary right before our very eyes. Can’t you see it? Israel stands today as a living modern-day miracle. Never before in all human history has there been a people scattered across the nations, exiled from their ancestral homeland for 2,000 years, only to return, rebuild their desolate cities, restore the land, and cause the desert itself to bloom once again.

God is calling for the world’s attention. To the Christians who still deny what He has done, I ask you: what more will it take for God to capture your attention?

Amen! Amen! Amen!

I sadly know so many of these people!

It does seem like the Calvary Chapel teachers are speaking out

Obviously Jack, but even this small Calvary Chapel I attend in Montana is doing a mini topical series out of the blue to explain Israel (pastor said he felt “called”)
 
The sad reality is that more and more Christians are the embracing replacement theology,
You would not believe how many believe Israel ended in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. I've tried to talk to some, it's impossible. They act like Messianic Jews, baptisms for salvation, think Paul should not be in the Bible, only read the 4 gospels and the apostles letters. It's mainly one group, I just don't engage any longer.
 
You would not believe how many believe Israel ended in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. I've tried to talk to some, it's impossible. They act like Messianic Jews, baptisms for salvation, think Paul should not be in the Bible, only read the 4 gospels and the apostles letters. It's mainly one group, I just don't engage any longer.

When I come across people like that on the interweb, when it's possible I just block them/ignore them. They're blind to the Truth and trying to reason with them with the Word is futile.
 
I guess by now its pretty clear that prophecy will have no problem being fulfilled, it in the day that happens, Because we tend to prove that it makes so very little sense to so many. :( Very well laid out TT. Thanks :)
 
Ignorance intermingled with racism is a BIG factor in why global masses believe or at least say Israel no longer exists since 70AD or otherwise.
Something interesting to note here. If we study WW1 and WW2 as it relates to Israel forming, we can why some would say that what occured there in those days does not amount to the Israel we see today to be the Israel we see in the bible. I don't agree with that view. But when you study how things came about, it is understandable to a small degree why there might be doubts with some. I only bring this up because it is fascinating evolution of events (causes of WW1 and what happens through WW2). But really I think what we have is the actual Israel God is talking about in scripture. So I am not in the camp of the decenters. I am just saying I can understand why there might be differing views based on how history took shape.

And I just bring that up because it is interesting also to note in that that the world (and even the church) can look at plain "general revelation" unfold (even as it might parlay into literally prophetic specific revelation) and see something totally different. And I think WW1 and WW2 era in how Israel came back is a great historic resource to see how evangelicals can infuse ideologies into events. And by so doing making what they are looking at "ah ha" moments that they are onto some great conspiracy. Trusting more those views that just looking at practical outflow from general revelation.

In that sense it could be said that general revelation is far more sound than what some styles of what we are looking at today (that tend to become huge conspiracy theories) seem to be. No doubt there are technologies arising today. No doubt there are processes in place today that suggest what these things could be in the tribulation era. But what they mean for us now, before and instead of that timeframe (the tribulation) is almost illegal to consider. To me it almost seems like anyone who is interested in looking at how things work for today MORE than how they might likely function in the tribulation era is not heavenly minded. Whereas I would pose the opposite. "Anyone who is not aware that things for today are for use for today and will serve God's Providence for today, is not exactly practicing biblical attudes of thankfulness, gratefulness, patience, self-control etc. Because what things "will become" to some are FAR more important than what they can mean today. And in America, that conspires with globalist idealogy to disinfranchise America of value AGAIN...only from a much more personal psuedo spiritual bent.

As one who kind of came out of gaslighting central, we seem to live in a day and age where the church is fastly becoming experts at brainwashing ourselves...lol. I thank God for a sound and healthy venue such as this forum where real discussions and considerations (along with sound and stable biblical perspective) can be had. It is a very precious thing. Amen. Blessings.
 
I am amazed by how many Christians seem unsure of where they should stand on the topic of Israel. Others openly oppose it altogether. And yet, the God we serve—the God of Israel—is using the Jewish State to try to get the attention of the world.
Yes 100%. It's shocking how many 'Christians' I run into who make anti-Israel comments, before all else. Their gospel seems to be to bash Israel. To me it's a confirmation of the importance of supporting Israel and the Jews in whatever way we can. The spiritual attacks being against Israel shows it's importance in these last days. God Bless :)
 
I would pose the opposite. "Anyone who is not aware that things for today are for use for today and will serve God's Providence for today, is not exactly practicing biblical attudes of thankfulness, gratefulness, patience, self-control etc. Because what things "will become" to some are FAR more important than what they can mean today. And in America, that conspires with globalist idealogy to disinfranchise America of value AGAIN...only from a much more personal psuedo spiritual bent.
I would entirely agree with this. That said, I cannot agree that our overarching views of Israel becoming a nation in 1948 and the evidence that we are in the last days is not prophetic fulfillment but the fact that we "infuse ideologies into events." If we cannot know when the last days are, then it makes no sense for God to have repeatedly told us to watch and He would not have criticized people for not discerning the times in Matthew 16:2-3. God carefully laid out prophecies so that man would recognize the various stages of history. And that includes the signs of the end times.

Yes, generations before us over the centuries have all presumed that certain signs meant that they were in the end times. But they missed the key sign of all-- the return of Israel to her own land after centuries of wandering among the nations on the face of the earth. Prophecy specifically required that, but earlier generations discounted the possibility. Once again, we need to take God at His Word: one cannot discount anything.
 
So many today are ignorant about history. Israel today does not resemble Israel in 1948. There were no modern cities or road systems, no real commerce or agriculture. The place was a barren waste and about the same condition as it was in 1897 when Mark Twain said this: “. . . a desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds—a silent mournful expanse. . . . A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action. . . . We never saw a human being on the whole route. . . . There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."

The Jews transformed that "desolate" country into the modern nation it is today. The Jews were not given, nor did they take over the Israel of today. They built it with their own hands as only someone who loves the land can do. The ignorant people today seem to thing that in 1948 the Jews just pushed out the Arabs and took over a bustling, prosperous nation sending those Arabs into exile. The Arabs left of their own accord, they were welcomed to stay but chose to leave, and in many cases sold their homes and land to the Jews as they left. The Jews didn't steal anything, they were given their original land back and turned it into a beautiful modern nation.

But these facts are ignored today because those facts do not fit the narrative of Jews being robbers, killers, and thieves bent on world domination.
 
I would entirely agree with this. That said, I cannot agree that our overarching views of Israel becoming a nation in 1948 and the evidence that we are in the last days is not progressive fulfillment but the fact that we "infuse ideologies into events." Of we cannot know when the last days are, then it makes no sense for good to have repeatedly told us to watch and He would not have criticized people for not discerning the times in Matthew 16:2-3. Good carefully laid out prophecies so that man would invite the various stages of history. And that includes the signs of the end times.

Yes, generations before us over the centuries have all presumed that certain signs meant that they were in the end. But they missed the key sign of all-- the return of Israel to her own land after centuries of wandering among the nations on the face of the earth. Prophecy specifically required that, but earlier generations discounted the possibility. Once again, we need to take God at His Word: one cannot discount anything.
So all of this has caused me a little time to get a sense of some aspects of this. I tend to see Matt 24's "nation against nation" to be roped in with "the fig leaf generation." See the connection:

4 And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one [c]misleads you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the [d]Christ,’ and they will [e]mislead many people. 6 And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pains.

So when we see this intro and how it can connect with the "When this and that STARTS to happen" language, it can be viewed to line up with "the fig tree generation (although typically "wars and rumors of wars etc." are things we would assign to our days moving forward).

I used to say years ago that I thought the references to nation against nation was actually related to the birth of Israel. But i was just saying that having a very sketchy idea about all of that. And likely thinking i was very wrong, naive and impressionable. But it sounded good. However, it kind of turns out that when you really dive deep into the elements involved in WW1&2 it is unmistakable how gargantuanly these two wars occur in reference to Israel forming. I am truly amazed at this. There is a ton of detail to pick up on all of this. One very simple one is the Balfour Declaration. In relation to its introduction, the whole issue over Gaza today REMINDS of where this all started.

. . . . .

I mentioned earlier on that i can understand though how others might not see this Israel as the biblical Israel. In saying that though, I don't agree at all. But when we see England's half hazard approach to it all, it can seem a bit gamey. It can seem a bit like something slapped together in sloppy fashion. Then there is the Rothchild involvement. Are the Rothchild's globalists? Are they not seen as grand Masons creating a makeshift reality? I can understand why some would have this difficulty. For the Balfour Declaration is primed in Rothchild activity.

Although it is thought by some that Zionist fervor was early 20th century vibes (which at the time was not exactly the majority of Jews--for at that time Jews were known for mostly wanting to fit in with their settled in communities, rather than give concern they wanted their own country), what seems to be a natural outflow of what Zionism had accrued to buy that time result in possibly coaxing America into WW1 (which is a possibility). In that, we could look at another feature of that day (one typically demonized) of Lionel Walter Rothchild and the Balfour Declaration. But the irony here on that front is somewhat that he (Rothchild) was not exactly a central banker. In fact, he walked away from that. And his family finally let him. Instead he just wanted to have a museum and zoo. Fascinated with animals. In which his family funded worldwide animal expeditions for the purpose of care and interest of animals within Lionel's interests and fancy. A type of Dr. Dolittle perhaps (interestingly enough, Hugh Lofting's Dr. Dolittle concept came from the same time period of WW1--perhaps a view into that periods mindset in some general but pronounced ways). In any event, Lionel was kind of a Rothchild black sheep family member for cause--not a typical Rothchild groomed was he.

. . . . .

On a final note is the fascinating mixture of America coming to rise. We did not want to get into the WW1. But might have in part been moved my Zionism. When most hear that, they see it as like a mind control thing. If we dispose of that ideology and consider more isimple terms, its kind of cool. Perhaps America came of age because of Zionism. lol. Which if has any truth kind of ropes America in tight with Israel from its first RealWorld stage bow. President Wilson wanted the League of Nations. A globalist at heart. In which the US never affirmed to enter. And later America winning WW2 (the world champion just at the time of Israel becoming an actual nation again).

So not only is Israel formation profoundly located in WW1 and WW2, but so too seemingly the time America became a real world player. Almost as if God was using the gentile superpower (emerging) to run tandem along side Israel, taking a pole position role with Israel God was returning. Which puts America on the map in a rather unique light when viewed or considered this way. So those are the grass roots. But the way we weigh America today is more like:

  • The nation that has to collapse because of Ez 38 (which infers its great links with Israel to begin with)
  • A country too proud and fleshy to be used by God for good (even though its existence has been a bulwark protector of Israel)
  • A country that some how caught a hook in aspects of evangelicalism that read prophecy through an America involvement lens

On that last one, it just seems like America and Trump have overshadowed Israel. For NAR and for the Luciferian Light camp views. They seem to both have been hooked by the jaw and dragged by MAGA away from grass roots general revelation formation of Israel in her eschatological place, proper. When considered from this angle, it just seems more likely that both America and Israel will increase in power in the days and weeks and months and years to come. Preparing for the great baton pass exchange. As Israel approaches her 70th week. I think it can help too to think of it as the 70th week (perhaps rather than the week of the beast system). Because seeing the tribulation from this side of the age of grace as the 70th week, might help right size technologies and events as they pertain to "right now," rather than what they might become in the tribulation. I mean, the 70th week.

In any event i took some time off to check out and refamiliarize myself with the Balfour WW1 era. Truly fascinating. Blessings.
 
You would not believe how many believe Israel ended in 70AD when the Temple was destroyed. I've tried to talk to some, it's impossible. They act like Messianic Jews, baptisms for salvation, think Paul should not be in the Bible, only read the 4 gospels and the apostles letters. It's mainly one group, I just don't engage any longer.
Our DD and her husband do. It boggles my mind how they can so easily swallow this baloney!
 
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