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Did Trump Betray Israel? Mideast & Beyond.

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As global pressure mounts and nations make fateful decisions, we're reminded that God's word is unfolding before our eyes, and it's never been more vital to understand the times and stay anchored. in truth.

In this critical episode of MidEast & Beyond, Amir Tsfarti and Pastor Barry Stagner unpack urgent developments from Israel, Gaza, Iran, Yemen, and Syria, all set against President Trump's controversial Middle East visit. https://www.youtube.com/live/wPmsHZ_jAT8
 
Here's Amir's assessment on this

Where Do Trump’s Loyalties Lie During His Middle East Excursion?

By Amir Tsarfati for
Harbinger's Daily

Rumors have been swirling in the media and online as to whether President Trump has abandoned Israel for the Gulf states. I’ll get into that at length down below. But I want you to know that whatever is done by the president of the United States or any other country cannot impact the future plan God has for my nation. The people of Israel are God’s chosen people, and our land is that which was given to us thousands of years ago in the time of the patriarchs. Millennia have passed, and empires have come and gone, but Israel remains. Why? Because that is what God promised, and His word is irrevocable.

A Balanced Perspective on Trump’s Middle East Excursion

Every time I say anything critical about Donald Trump I can be assured of one thing, I am going to lose subscribers. It’s like clockwork. So, I will begin this news item saying that Donald Trump on his worst day is light years better than Kamala Harris on her best day. I like Donald Trump. Had I been an American citizen, he would have received my vote. However, just because I support someone, it doesn’t mean that I can’t disagree with them and call them out when I believe they deserve it. And on this Middle East trip, I think he deserves to be called out in a few areas.

It didn’t begin with this trip. Even before he left for my neighborhood, his administration signed a ceasefire deal with the Houthis. Somehow in the hoopla of it all, he neglected to tell Israel about it, allowing us to learn about the agreement through the media. Essentially, he said that as long as the Yemenite terrorists don’t attack any American ships, he will refrain from dropping thousands of pounds of explosives on their cities and ports. Nowhere in that treaty does it mention desisting from firing cruise missiles at Israel. In fact, while Trump was in Saudi Arabia making a speech, a Houthi-fired missile flew over that country on its way to mine. The president also made statements about possibly allowing Saudi Arabia to develop its own nuclear program, a decision that Israel would like to have been a part of, considering the kingdom of Saud is our neighbor.

I will get into more details as they apply to the stories below. But let me say ahead of time that I understand that this is a business tour and the president is an America-first businessman. I don’t fault him for that. That is who he was elected to be, and for me to expect him to put Bible before business is unfair. Not only is he a businessman, but he is a New York businessman. That means he has had to deal with every type of person, no matter their character, in the unions, in construction, in government, in zoning, in the legal system, wherever. It seems evident to me that the truism that you catch more bees with honey than vinegar guides much of his philosophy. I try to keep that in mind when I see him hobnobbing with the Emir of Qatar and hear him calling the new Syrian president, who until four months ago had a $10 million bounty on his head, “a young, attractive guy.” Despite the fake news media, there are no indications that President Trump has thrown Israel’s Prime Minister Netanyahu under the bus. The United States is still our greatest ally, and I don’t see that changing under this administration.

Royal Welcome in Saudi Arabia

President Donald Trump landed in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on Tuesday at 10:00 AM local time, where he was greeted with the great pomp and circumstance befitting the most powerful man in the world. Meeting him at the plane was Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS), who is the prime minister and de facto leader of the nation for his ailing, 89-year-old father. The two world leaders had productive talks with the result that Saudi Arabia committing to invest $600 billion into the U.S. market, including $142 billion in a defense procurement deal. As I mentioned above, the president indicated prior to the trip that Washington may come alongside Riyadh’s ambition to become a nuclear power. It can be assumed that this subject was further discussed during Trump’s visit.

A President, a Prince, and a Terrorist

The title sounds like the beginning of a bad joke, and, in a sense, it is. On Wednesday, while in Riyadh, President Trump sat for a cup of tea with Crown Prince MBS and new Syrian president and former al-Qaeda and ISIS bad guy Ahmed al-Sharaa. As I mentioned earlier, because of Trump’s hard-knock construction background, he’s learned to look beyond the dark past of some shady characters to see the greater good of a beneficial deal. That is how I somewhat justify the president looking past all the mangled corpses that lay in al-Sharaa’s wake. “I’ve never believed in permanent enemies,” the president said. He went on to say that he sees in the new president a “real opportunity to preserve the unity of Syria”, and a possibility of the nation joining the Abraham Accords. If the president can see that in this man, then he must have much keener vision that I do. It would certainly be wonderful if he turns out to be right.

A Land Flowing with Planes and Money

From Saudi Arabia, President Trump flew to Doha, Qatar, where again he was treated like a king. I just feel bad for him that he never got to experience the terminal at Hamad International Airport which is truly remarkable. The president met with Qatar’s emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Than, and, after discussions, the two signed some agreements. Amongst other understandings, Qatar Airways is ordering over 160 Boeing jets worth more than $200 billion. Aviation was already on everyone’s mind when it came to Qatar after the nation had gifted to President Trump a $400 million flying palace to be used as Air Force One. Trump accepted the hand-me-down present saying that it wasn’t given to him but to the Department of Defense to be used by him temporarily since Boeing is behind in its replacement presidential aircraft.

Another Opportunity to Miss an Opportunity

By Friday, Hamas must make a choice between two options. First, there is the hostage release deal put forth by Steve Witkoff, United States Special Envoy to the Middle East. This route demands the release of ten hostages in exchange for a 50-day ceasefire and dozens of Palestinian prisoners. If they reject that proposal, then Israel, with America’s blessing, will implement Operation Gideon’s Chariots. This is a multi-faceted option which begins with pushing all civilians south to the Morag Humanitarian Zone, where they will be scanned for weapons before being allowed to enter. Once inside, they will receive humanitarian aid and encouraged to emigrate to countries that are accepting Palestinian refugees. Just yesterday, 600 Gazans departed to be repatriated abroad. Meanwhile, the IDF will commence a full-scale demolition of Gaza, ensuring there is no building left in which terrorists can shelter nor any tunnel remaining in which they can hide. All Hamas’s military and governance capabilities will be destroyed, and all 58 hostages will be released through military force. Hamas has already rejected the Witkoff plan. They have one more day left to reconsider.

The streets next to the European hospital in Khan Yunis erupted yesterday. The IDF employed a Belt of Fire technique, in which the ends of a tunnel are bombed, trapping the inhabitants underground. Then, bunker buster bombs are dropped along the path of the tunnel, destroying everyone and everything inside. Who was the target? Mohammed Sinwar, brother of Yahya Sinwar and mastermind of the October 7 attack, along with Rafah Brigade Commander Muhammad Shabana, Hamas military leader of the southern Gaza Strip sector, and Abu Obaida, Hamas spokesman. All indications are that this triumvirate of evil was sent to their final judgment, however we are all anxiously waiting confirmation. With the stubbornness of Mohammad Sinwar gone, the possibility of a conclusion to this war would increase substantially.

Under pressure from the Trump administration and the Qatari emir, Hamas released Israeli-American hostage Edan Alexander on Monday. Abducted on October 7 while serving in the IDF, Alexander endured severe torture in the 584 days he was held. When he was finally reunited with his family, his arms bore the scars of his abuse. Unfortunately, it was with his release that the circus truly began. Reports surfaced that Alexander was going to be forced to travel to Qatar to meet with President Donald Trump and the Qatari emir to thank them for their intervention. I was appalled when I heard this, because it was due to Qatar’s support of Hamas that Edan had been held for so long. Ultimately, it was announced that due to his medical condition, he could not fly to Qatar. Whether this is true or it was just a way out of what had become a firestorm of criticism, I don’t know. I’m just grateful that he wasn’t required to carry out such a disgusting act of obeisance.


Israel Shuts Down Yemen

As I told you last week, May 5-6 saw Israel decimating the international airport in Sana’a, Yemen, and hitting other Houthi-related locations throughout the nation. The Yemeni government is saying that they are reopening the airport to limited use, but it is unlikely that they can even find a runway in good enough shape to land a plane. On Sunday, Israel issued an evacuation warning to all Yemeni seaports because an attack was imminent. No attack came. Then yesterday, Israel doubled down on their warning saying that everyone better abandon the ports or risk bombs dropping on their heads. Still, as of this writing, there has been no attack. Why is Israel doing this? They are effectively shutting down the ports without firing a shot. Already, most international shipping has left Yemen so they could protect their property. This will make it easier if Israel does decide to attack, because there will be no danger of damaging another nation’s ship. Three missiles were recently fired from Yemen at Israel in a short period of time. Two were shot down and one landed before reaching Israeli borders. It’s likely that if the Houthis stopped chewing khat for just a few days they’d recover enough sense to discover that they’re essentially dead.

Israel Continues Its Dismantling of Hezbollah

Motorcycles, tunnels, munitions, entrenchments – all continue to be fair game for Israel in southern Lebanon. Surprisingly, there is little to no protest from the Lebanese government. All understand that it has to be done and that the Lebanese military doesn’t have the capability to do it themselves. President Trump has urged Lebanon to get out of the grip of Hezbollah, because, once free, it might lead to normalization in relationships with other nations, including Israel. The fact that Hezbollah is giving little resistance to the Israeli attacks shows the terrorist organization’s deterioration.


Amir Tsarfati is a fmr Deputy Governor of Jericho, an Israeli tour guide, author, the Founder and President of Behold Israel, and a Contributor to Harbinger’s Daily.

 
There's 2 things going on here

1 is the Bible prophecy angle, and whatever else we feel, we need to keep a clear head and open eyes to see how current events might be forming into fulfillment of prophecy.

2 is the patriotic/loyalty issue where we can see that Trump for example is doing his level best to do right by America- whether or not we agree on how he's doing that. And this is where people need to be able to differ. We don't all agree on everything. Case in point, what is good for America isn't always good for Canada, Britain, Israel or China. But Christians live there too. We are also Christians, just not Americans. We also pray for our countries and are loyal.



So we need to gently separate the issue of being a patriotic American from being a Christian.

Especially a Christian who is looking at the prophetic scriptures and seeing possible patterns unfolding that look a bit like getting ready for certain prophecies to be fulfilled.



Prayer comes first!

One thing I think we can all agree on is that Trump needs every last ounce of prayer we can all pray because this guy is in a place of incredible pressure. Even presidents like Obama who phone it in from the golf course, or Biden who seemed to put in a lot of beach time, require our prayers because they age visibly in office.

I was horrified to see James Comey's call to assassinate ("86") the president on social media.

So we can all agree- prayer for our leaders- I pray for Carney. I don't like him but I pray for him. I pray for Trump- I like him but I don't agree with everything he's doing. I don't know if any of you pray for Carney, but if you feel inclined, Canada can use all the help we can get.

AND I pray for Netanyahu.

We can like, support and pray for people and not agree with every thing they do.


Seeing things thru the lens of Scripture

Most important is to see things thru Biblical eyes.

How is what is happening working to fulfill prophecy.

In this case I think A LOT is going on that DOES look like the Tribulation Furniture is being moved into place here, and Trump seems to be at the centre of that particular hurricane.

To deny our eyes, to deny what is becoming abundantly obvious is to hide from the truth. Admittedly the press doesn't make it easy to tease out the truth but when a number of ministries (not just Amir) are sounding an alarm

It's time to dial up the prayers.

It's time to question how this emerging peace agreement might fit with the prophecies and read our Bibles with increasing excitement as the day approaches, because the Rapture is coming soon at some point.

How soon is anyone's guess but it's shocking to see how fast things are changing under Trump's watch. We aren't going back to "normal" whatever that meant. We are heading straight into the eye of a storm on the horizon that is the Tribulation

But before we get into that storm

We are lifted up and out of here.

Keep watching and observing because we are seeing things that the prophets themselves wondered about and longed to see. We get to see it happen.
 
I am hearing the words peace and security/safety, and this is what the :bible: says about when they say peace and security sudden destruction shall come upon them. Also, AI is really being promoted which is not a good thing. Margery, I am seeing a lot of things being talked about that is lining up with prophecy. One thing that disturbs me is the prayer team that has Paula White as the lead person. I wonder if Franklin Graham has ever spoken to Trump about this.
 
So we need to gently separate the issue of being a patriotic American from being a Christian.

Especially a Christian who is looking at the prophetic scriptures and seeing possible patterns unfolding that look a bit like getting ready for certain prophecies to be fulfilled.
You hit the nail on the head.

“For the Word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

It’s painful.
 
1 is the Bible prophecy angle, and whatever else we feel, we need to keep a clear head and open eyes to see how current events might be forming into fulfillment of prophecy.
The key word in the above is “might”.

I know I have been guilty at times as trying to see all world events as some form of prophecy. However, that is not the case. Many times teachers try and force world events into the prophetic puzzle that simply don’t fit.

Some moves by Trump could be motivated by trying to bring peace to an area that has been a powder keg for decades.

We as a country have to work with countries that certainly do not have our same values. If you think about it, how many countries out there truly do?
 
The key word in the above is “might”.

I know I have been guilty at times as trying to see all world events as some form of prophecy. However, that is not the case. Many times teachers try and force world events into the prophetic puzzle that simply don’t fit.

Some moves by Trump could be motivated by trying to bring peace to an area that has been a powder keg for decades.

We as a country have to work with countries that certainly do not have our same values. If you think about it, how many countries out there truly do?
And that boils it all down into a tidy nutshell. That I agree with.

"might"

I think several things can be right at the same time.

For example:
Christians live in different countries. Each christian hopefully prays for THEIR leader, their country and may not see things from an American point of view.

Not all Christians vote the same even IN the same country. Still saved, but their decisions are different.

What is good for America may NOT be good for Israel. When that happens should American Christians take the side of the Bible and pray for the peace of Jerusalem or take the side of America and pray for America? I suggest BOTH are true. But as Christians they need to hold the BIBLE first, and their politics second.

Trump wants to bring peace but mostly as it affects America. While he may want world peace, the motivation is to prevent American's losing lives in wars that they get dragged into. When it comes to letting Israel struggle alone on the world stage - America will bear the consequences. Christians who pray CAN influence things for the better for both countries. Until the Rapture we are Salt and Light. The Restrainer works thru us.

Trump wants to bring prosperity to America, maybe that will bring prosperity to America and maybe the world, but it depends on the decisions he makes and how he treats Israel.

Trump may or may not be saved, regardless of his salvation status, he is under the influence of people like Paula White. She is a New Apostolic Reformation type (NAR) and they generally think God is done with Israel.

Trump trusts his family and loyal friends and assistants more than anyone else in his inner circle - that is something we all do, but the consequences can be bad if those people's minds and hearts are darkened (being unsaved and influenced by the WEF as Kushner and Ivanka are for example)

Trump is human and doesn't always have all the facts (like all of us) and is using his judgment based on what he knows.

We only know what we know. God sees the WHOLE picture. The enemy is smarter than humans, but dumber than God by a long shot.

The Bible, not our particular favourite preachers is the final authority, however some views (like dispensational theology, make more sense than other views).

Trump doesn't read prophecy and understand the reasons why Israel is important. We can hope and pray that people around him like Mike Huckabee or Jefress or other informed Christians are able to make that clear to him so he can enter that information into his decision making process. However he still has to make the decisions, that is what he was elected to do. So far he seems to pay more attention to Paula White.

Ultimately God is the one who puts people into power, and who turns the hearts of leaders of nations and that all flows into prophecy. God uses their inclinations, their decisions as prophecy works it's way to fulfillment.

Watching Trump's decisions in action can be laid up against prophetic profiles to see where things are starting to match up. This recent Saudi visit lines up with a lot of interesting bits of Ezek 38 for example. It also lines up with the nations deciding to go against Israel, one after the other till Israel stands alone. Israel is alone by Ezek 38. The more daylight Trump allows between America and Israel, the bolder the nations are in moving against Israel. That is why this morning France and the Saudi's are talking about IMPOSING a 2 state solution on Israel. America under Trump is moving AWAY from it's close ties with Israel.

Trump is not an economist, he relies on a set of economists who advise him that come from a particular world view. That affects the decisions he makes. Those decisions will have consequences that line up with reality, not with a particular expectation. The economists who are advising him have expressed their opinions (documented) that a crash would be beneficial and allow a new system to take over. Therefore it is possible even probable that they are working towards that goal. Regardless of their goals, God has the final say whether things crash or not.

There are 2 distinct possibilities from the Bible for economic conditions before the Tribulation and surrounding the Rapture period.

Options available:
1- we see economic collapse and a replacement with digital currency before the Rapture.
2- we see the economy generally being ok, if with a few ups and downs and market corrections followed by collapse as the Rapture takes place.

Both views have their merits.

Both views are possibilities with Trump's economic actions.

Both views end up with economic collapse- just at different points in time.

That collapse is necessary in order to have the type of economic system in place that we see in Revelation where nobody can buy or sell without the mark. That has to have certain conditions. A world wide system of economic control- digital fits that best, and a world wide system that tracks every person on the planet, AND all their financial transactions.

We already see that system being outlined. It's waiting in the wings.

I think in flow charts and probability.

If that then this- In order for prophecy to be fulfilled we should see things forming in advance that line up with prophecy. That has little to do with individual prophecy teachers and everything to do with looking at the data and lining it up against scripture.

It's not an exact science. We won't know till AFTER the prophecy is fulfilled that yes, this prophecy was fulfilled in this exact sequence. But we do see the day approaching, just as the Bible says.

Our ideas about each prophecy may vary but we all need to watch and pray.

And most of all let our views about prophecy drive us to reach the lost around us.

Because the time is short.
 
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