You are hitting the nail on the head, lets see when the world wakes up and sees who its following.......
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It just keeps getting incredible what the Pope is backing away from. Well, looks like the Pope is retracting more than a few things, now they are backing away from the apparitions that have been claimed of Jesus. Catholics believe that figures such as Jesus and Mary can appear supernaturally, known as apparitions, to share religious messages, inspire devotion, or call for peace. But now the Pope seems to be taking steps in backing away from this long held conviction.
"Jesus may answer prayers but he has not made special appearances in a small town in the north of France, the Vatican said on Wednesday.
In a new instruction approved by Pope Leo, the Vatican's top doctrinal office said stories of appearances by Jesus in the town of Dozule, in Normandy, were not to be considered genuine by the world's 1.4 billion Catholics.
A Catholic mother in the town had reported seeing Jesus 49 times during the 1970s, and said he had dictated a series of messages and told her to build a 7.38-metre (24.21-foot) cross on a hillside in the town.
"The phenomenon of the alleged apparitions ... is to be regarded, definitively, as not supernatural in origin, with all the consequences that flow from this determination," said the text issued by the doctrinal office.
Catholics believe religious figures such as Jesus and Mary can make supernatural appearances, called apparitions, to offer religious messages, create new devotional practices or make general appeals for peace.
The Vatican has a formal evaluation process for assessing claimed appearances, and it warns against use of alleged phenomena for monetary gain.
The Vatican also recently issued a decree clarifying the titles Catholics can use for Mary. That text said Mary cannot be called the "co-redeemer" of the world, since Catholics believe Jesus alone redeemed humanity by his crucifixion and death." Well thats not what they held for all these centuries.
www.reuters.com
"Jesus may answer prayers but he has not made special appearances in a small town in the north of France, the Vatican said on Wednesday.
In a new instruction approved by Pope Leo, the Vatican's top doctrinal office said stories of appearances by Jesus in the town of Dozule, in Normandy, were not to be considered genuine by the world's 1.4 billion Catholics.
A Catholic mother in the town had reported seeing Jesus 49 times during the 1970s, and said he had dictated a series of messages and told her to build a 7.38-metre (24.21-foot) cross on a hillside in the town.
"The phenomenon of the alleged apparitions ... is to be regarded, definitively, as not supernatural in origin, with all the consequences that flow from this determination," said the text issued by the doctrinal office.
Catholics believe religious figures such as Jesus and Mary can make supernatural appearances, called apparitions, to offer religious messages, create new devotional practices or make general appeals for peace.
The Vatican has a formal evaluation process for assessing claimed appearances, and it warns against use of alleged phenomena for monetary gain.
The Vatican also recently issued a decree clarifying the titles Catholics can use for Mary. That text said Mary cannot be called the "co-redeemer" of the world, since Catholics believe Jesus alone redeemed humanity by his crucifixion and death." Well thats not what they held for all these centuries.
Jesus did not appear on hill in France, Vatican says
Jesus may answer prayers but he has not made special appearances in a small town in the north of France, the Vatican said on Wednesday.
www.reuters.com
I wonder how many cubits 7.38 meters would be...
16.14 according to this converter I found online here Meters to Cubits | Kyle's Converter
because you never know when you'll need to know a handy dandy measurement in cubits.
Mind you we don't know if google's AI was being truthful
because you never know when you'll need to know a handy dandy measurement in cubits.
I figured if the measure came out to an even cubit, like exactly 16, then maybe the lady's insanity was actually sane...
Well, lets see if they begin to back away from some of their blasphemous claims...
[Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church (both the Latin and Eastern Catholic[1][2] churches) which states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope when he speaks ex cathedra is preserved from the possibility of error on doctrine "initially given to the apostolic Church and handed down in Scripture and tradition".]
[Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church (both the Latin and Eastern Catholic[1][2] churches) which states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope when he speaks ex cathedra is preserved from the possibility of error on doctrine "initially given to the apostolic Church and handed down in Scripture and tradition".]
Hol
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They have a long history of loving two things: controlling people and money.
If they stop loving those two things I would take a serious look at them.
Official saint making, or canonization by the Vatican, did not start until the 11th century, but as early as the 2nd century, the veneration of saints began to be allowed to spread by the pagan converts and came into the church. Basically what Gentile converts were doing was the same thing they had done for centuries before as pagans, and so they picked up Greek pagan doctrines and used it to cover what was being done.
Veneration of the dead is based on the belief that the deceased, often family members, have a continued existence and/or possess the ability to influence the fortune of the living, so you see how the lie spread and grew, especially in the Catholic Church, who venerate saints as intercessors with God.
The Roman Catholic Church, venerate the dead as what they claim are saints who are in Heaven. They are honored through prayers and feast days. Such holidays to honor the dead in Christianity include All Saints' Day, All Souls' Day, and Day of the Dead. The realm of the dead is as the word says, dead, but many have picked up ancient Greek myths or even older pagan mysteries and made them beliefs such as Purgatory, Limbo and Hades. It comes from the worship of the dead or ancestor worship which involve addressing prayers or offerings to the spirits of the dead. It existed among the ancient Greeks, other ancient people. The practice of worship for the dead and praying to them, or making prayer or offerings on behalf of the dead to contribute to their afterlife purification is not scriptural and in fact is forbidden in the Bible.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
So is the Catholic Church aware that its 'veneration of Saints' was transferred from idol worship?
Veneration of the dead is based on the belief that the deceased, often family members, have a continued existence and/or possess the ability to influence the fortune of the living, so you see how the lie spread and grew, especially in the Catholic Church, who venerate saints as intercessors with God.
The Roman Catholic Church, venerate the dead as what they claim are saints who are in Heaven. They are honored through prayers and feast days. Such holidays to honor the dead in Christianity include All Saints' Day, All Souls' Day, and Day of the Dead. The realm of the dead is as the word says, dead, but many have picked up ancient Greek myths or even older pagan mysteries and made them beliefs such as Purgatory, Limbo and Hades. It comes from the worship of the dead or ancestor worship which involve addressing prayers or offerings to the spirits of the dead. It existed among the ancient Greeks, other ancient people. The practice of worship for the dead and praying to them, or making prayer or offerings on behalf of the dead to contribute to their afterlife purification is not scriptural and in fact is forbidden in the Bible.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
So is the Catholic Church aware that its 'veneration of Saints' was transferred from idol worship?
I don't know. (And I suspect they do not care.)
Then the question would be why does the whole world look to see what the magistrate says and does if what they have comes from pagan worship...?
LightOfMyLife
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I think people have been brainwashed. A lot of them grew up in families that were Catholic. Then when they find out the truth of the
they actually get saved, and hopefully leave that false teaching church. It is called deception.
1LoverofGod
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*Now if the Vatican were to "Nix" the title for the Pope as "Vicar of Christ", I would find that to be impressive.
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The term vicar comes from the Latin word vicarius, which means “substituted, delegated.” In the Roman Catholic Church, a vicar is the representative of a higher-ranking official, with the same authority and power that that higher official has. Calling the pope the “Vicar of Christ” implies that he has the same power and authority that Christ had over the church.
The Bible says that Jesus is the only name by which men can be saved (Acts 4:12). There is only one mediator between God and men, and that is Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5). There is no biblical foundation for claiming to be a representative of Christ on earth. No man could do what Christ has done or what Christ is now doing on behalf of mankind.
But the title of vicar also carries with it another implication: the bearer has the same jurisdictional power as the official he represents. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus Christ is the one who will build His church; He never delegates this power. By claiming the title Vicar of Christ, the reigning pope is, in fact, promising to do what Christ promised to do Himself.
Jesus does indeed predict a “vicar” in the sense of a “replacement” for His physical presence here on earth. However, this “Vicar of Christ” is not a priest, bishop, or pope. The only biblical “Vicar of Christ” is the Holy Spirit. John 14:26 declares, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you” (CSB). In John 14:16–18, Jesus promises, “And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.” The Holy Spirit is Christ’s “replacement” to help the church.
In claiming that the pope is the “Vicar of Christ,” the Roman Catholic Church rejects the sufficiency and supremacy of Christ’s priesthood and grants to the pope roles that Christ Himself declared would belong to the Holy Spirit. It is therefore blasphemy to ascribe to the pope the title Vicar of Christ.
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The term vicar comes from the Latin word vicarius, which means “substituted, delegated.” In the Roman Catholic Church, a vicar is the representative of a higher-ranking official, with the same authority and power that that higher official has. Calling the pope the “Vicar of Christ” implies that he has the same power and authority that Christ had over the church.
The Bible says that Jesus is the only name by which men can be saved (Acts 4:12). There is only one mediator between God and men, and that is Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5). There is no biblical foundation for claiming to be a representative of Christ on earth. No man could do what Christ has done or what Christ is now doing on behalf of mankind.
But the title of vicar also carries with it another implication: the bearer has the same jurisdictional power as the official he represents. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus Christ is the one who will build His church; He never delegates this power. By claiming the title Vicar of Christ, the reigning pope is, in fact, promising to do what Christ promised to do Himself.
Jesus does indeed predict a “vicar” in the sense of a “replacement” for His physical presence here on earth. However, this “Vicar of Christ” is not a priest, bishop, or pope. The only biblical “Vicar of Christ” is the Holy Spirit. John 14:26 declares, “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you” (CSB). In John 14:16–18, Jesus promises, “And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.” The Holy Spirit is Christ’s “replacement” to help the church.
In claiming that the pope is the “Vicar of Christ,” the Roman Catholic Church rejects the sufficiency and supremacy of Christ’s priesthood and grants to the pope roles that Christ Himself declared would belong to the Holy Spirit. It is therefore blasphemy to ascribe to the pope the title Vicar of Christ.
Is the pope the Vicar of Christ? | GotQuestions.org
Is the pope the Vicar of Christ? Is the Roman Catholic pope the replacement for Jesus on the earth?
www.gotquestions.org