Canadian Liberals rolling out digital ID infrastructure, order paper reveals

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The revelation comes following an Order Paper Question submitted by Canadian Conservative MP Leslyn Lewis, who asked about the federal government's use of digital identification systems.

The federal government is actively building a national digital identification framework across multiple departments, despite repeated public assurances that any future use will be “voluntary,” according to a newly released response to an Order Paper Question.

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Across every department involved, the Liberal government maintains that participation will remain voluntary and that Canadians will continue to have access to in-person and phone services using physical credentials. However, the breadth of departments already building and testing these systems confirms that the federal government is quietly erecting the technical infrastructure for a national digital ID ecosystem.

While the Liberal government insists usage will be optional, the response to Q-521 makes one thing clear: digital identification in Canada is no longer theoretical — it is already being built, tested, and deployed. Whether “voluntary” remains voluntary once these systems become normalized is a question Canadians may soon be forced to answer.

https://www.rebelnews.com/liberals_rolling_out_digital_id_infrastructure_order_paper_reveals

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

Although i kinda agree with the under 16 social media ban in my country that kicked off yesterday, i heard also on the news that now to enter America you have to show them 5 years of your social media and email history before they allow entry into America

The world definitely is setting up more and more its global beast system

 

[Cheeky200386]

Although i kinda agree with the under 16 social media ban in my country that kicked off yesterday, i heard also on the news that now to enter America you have to show them 5 years of your social media and email history before they allow entry into America

The world definitely is setting up more and more its global beast system

What in the world?!

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

What in the world?!

Yeah there is links to other news websites as well but this was the closest one i could find that didn't ask for a subscription

US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry​

Tourists from dozens of countries including the UK could be asked to provide a five-year social media history as a condition of entry to the United States, under a new proposal unveiled by American officials.

US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry

The plan would affect people from countries, including the UK, who can fill out a form in lieu of a visa.

www.bbc.com

 

[Everlasting Life]

Here's another link as well:

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/esta-visa-waiver-social-media-travel-foreigners/2025/12/10/id/1237825/

....The notice published Wednesday in the Federal Register said Customs and Border Protection is proposing collecting five years worth of social media information from travelers from select countries who do not have to get visas to come to the U.S. The Trump administration has been stepping up monitoring of international travelers and immigrants.

The announcement refers to travelers from more than three dozen countries who take part in the Visa Waiver Program and submit their information to the Electronic System for Travel Authorization, which automatically screens them and then approves them for travel to the U.S. Unlike visa applicants, they generally do not have to go into an embassy or consulate for an interview....


....Travelers from countries that are not part of the Visa Waiver Program system are already required to submit their social media information, a policy that dates back to the first Trump administration.

....But citizens from visa waiver countries were not obligated to do so.

Since January, the Trump administration has stepped up checks of immigrants and travelers, both those trying to enter the U.S. as well as those already in the country.

 

[Everlasting Life]

Yeah there is links to other news websites as well but this was the closest one i could find that didn't ask for a subscription

US could ask foreign tourists for five-year social media history before entry​

Tourists from dozens of countries including the UK could be asked to provide a five-year social media history as a condition of entry to the United States, under a new proposal unveiled by American officials.

US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry

The plan would affect people from countries, including the UK, who can fill out a form in lieu of a visa.

www.bbc.com

I notice that the concern being stated is for national security. What seems to be fueling this is:

....Asked whether the proposal could lead to a steep drop-off in tourism to the US, Trump said he was not concerned.

"No. We're doing so well," the president said on Wednesday.

"We just want people to come over here, and safe. We want safety. We want security.

"We want to make sure we're not letting the wrong people come enter our country."

The US expects a major influx of foreign tourists next year, as it hosts the men's football World Cup alongside Canada and Mexico, and for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles......

If I'm remembering correctly, two of those teams are coming from Egypt and Iran next year.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

I notice that the concern being stated is for national security. What seems to be fueling this is:

....Asked whether the proposal could lead to a steep drop-off in tourism to the US, Trump said he was not concerned.

"No. We're doing so well," the president said on Wednesday.

"We just want people to come over here, and safe. We want safety. We want security.

"We want to make sure we're not letting the wrong people come enter our country."

The US expects a major influx of foreign tourists next year, as it hosts the men's football World Cup alongside Canada and Mexico, and for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles......

If I'm remembering correctly, two of those teams are coming from Egypt and Iran next year.

I'm not sure about Egypt but Iran did qualify for the world cup.

I wonder whether it's only for those big events that they're going to have this for or whether it would become permanent ?

 

[Everlasting Life]

I'm not sure about Egypt but Iran did qualify for the world cup.

I wonder whether it's only for those big events that they're going to have this for or whether it would become permanent ?

Good question.....

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both
Benjamin Franklin

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both
Benjamin Franklin

I think the same principle could be the same for trading privacy etc for convenience

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I think the same principle could be the same for trading privacy etc for convenience

Example, gmail now requiring phone number and denying access if you don't now give it to them to "prove ownership of the email account," even though never provided to them in the first place.

Ditto, two-factor authentication to get into email, bank accounts, patient portals, etc.

It's a GIANT WEB/NET/SNARE


29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Luke 21:29-36, KJV

 

[Tall Timbers]

Example, gmail now requiring phone number and denying access if you don't now give it to them to "prove ownership of the email account," even though never provided to them in the first place.

Since most people have a personal phone number now, tying that number to the owner is more valuable than most personal information that is collected.

I've refrained from giving my number to the likes of Google, yahoo, microsoft... though I get asked for it every day.

Every time I want to download a free app for my phone Google tries to get me to give them credit card info that they can store. Nope.

Before the MOB becomes a thing, the dark powers that be will probably already have redundant methods for tracking our persons and our transactions.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Since most people have a personal phone number now, tying that number to the owner is more valuable than most personal information that is collected.

I've refrained from giving my number to the likes of Google, yahoo, microsoft... though I get asked for it every day.

Every time I want to download a free app for my phone Google tries to get me to give them credit card info that they can store. Nope.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get into my gmail account without giving up my phone number

 

[Tall Timbers]

I'm still trying to figure out how to get into my gmail account without giving up my phone number

I have a couple of Gmail accounts but don't use them.

Yahoo wants my phone number but so far anyway hasn't locked me out for not providing it.

Then there's the 3rd party authentication apps. I like the security they seem to provide (so long as a thief doesn't get into my phone) but you end up needing several authentication apps since different companies contract with different apps... remembering which app I need at any given moment isn't easy.