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Barry Stagner - good video on avoiding "Spiritual Formation"

Margery

When Stuff Gets Crazy LOOK UP! Maranatha!
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which is part of the whole Emergent Church problem, but is a persistent and very bad movement of it's own. Contemplative Prayer is one of the facets of that problematic teaching.


I was listening to it last night and REALLY appreciated it. I bumped into that problem in the Baptist church I attended for over a decade after we moved here. It gradually went off into Purpose Driven Seeker Sensitive stuff and I left when it decided that Noah's Ark was Hebrew poetry and the Flood wasn't really world wide.

The Youth Pastor had just discovered Richard Foster's Celebration of Discipline which is one of the ways it was entering evangelical circles at the time (late 1999 early 2000) but was written in the late 70s. Richard was part of the neo Quakers that were quite popular then, and his work crossed over into evangelical circles at the turn of the millennium and became one aspect of Emergent church stuff.

Long story short, Barry is warning against this- I guess it must be having a resurgence of popularity. When I went to check when R. Foster wrote his book the blurb under one of the book sites raved about it as a modern church classic.

I suppose it is- if you are interested in heretical doctrines coming out of the Jesuits and Catholic mystics.

Meanwhile I highly encourage listening to Barry Stagner explain it all much better than I can. Just in case it's coming to a church near you!
 
Is he the pastor who wrote a popular book about his deceased son who repeatedly visits him and his wife?
Doesn't sound like the Barry Stagner I'm referring to. This one is Amir Tsarfati's brother in law, and he's written some books, but none about a deceased son who regularly visits him and his wife. His blurb on his Word Press blog says this: "Barry is the Sr. Pastor of Calvary Central OC in Costa Mesa, CA. Barry is the host of The Line Up, which discusses world events in Bible prophecy each week, and the author of 6 books to date. Barry and Teri frequently speak at conferences and retreats, addressing the topics of marriage, ministry, or prophecy. They have two children and four beautiful grandchildren."

Books he's written: from most recent to oldest
Bible Prophecy: The Essentials
The Time of the Signs; A chronology of Earth's Final Events
Dancing with the Scars: Finding Hope When Life Hurts
Beside Still Waters: Daily Devotions from Psalms
Body Builders: Daily Exhortations
Happily Even After: Doing Marriage Right

I did a quick online check of his biography, looked specifically for controversy surrounding him, found nothing, and nowhere does it mention a deceased son, and none of his books mention that in the blurbs on Amazon. I specifically checked into Dancing with the Scars as that would be closest to that type of topic and none of the reviews I saw mentioned that. It's about getting over past hurts.

As far as I can tell he's never lost a son.

Maybe I missed something, can you provide details of this- send me a PM with it, as I don't want any links to anything sketchy going up here on CCF. If Barry is indeed at fault in this way, I will remove this thread immediately.
 
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