All SNAP recipients must requalify

[dwb]

I agree with President Trump, all those who need it should have it, but those able to work should do so. I would imagine a federal judge will find some reason to halt the effort, but with the fraud identified, maybe it be allowed.

I'm old enough to remember a time when almost everyone worked. Many moms stayed home with kids, but the men and many women worked daily. The marriage rate was much higher because it took a father and a mother to raise a family. The government became the "father/provider" through food stamps/SNAP and the single parent household was born.

The secretary said Thursday that 186,000 “deceased men and women and children” are “receiving a check” through SNAP, citing data from 29 states that complied with USDA’s request for information.

Federal officials and GOP lawmakers have been determined to show they’re taking wasteful spending seriously after months of work to reduce spending through DOGE. The One Big Beautiful Bill Act, signed into law in July, implemented a $186 billion slash to SNAP spending and included new work requirements and other restrictions on who receives benefits — the biggest overhaul of the food aid program to date.

“People keep talking about SNAP. But SNAP is supposed to be if you’re down and out,” Trump said Monday on Fox News. “The number is many times what it should be.”

“It really puts the country in jeopardy. People that need it have to get it. I’m all for it,” Trump added. “But people who are able-bodied can do a job — they leave their job because they figure they can pick this up, it’s easier. That’s not the purpose of it.”

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[Ghoti Ichthus]

Sadly, some people, who need the help, primarily elderly, and especially elderly, who are have become widow(er)s, can't qualify due to "making too much." Federal poverty guidelines don't take into account it takes the same amount of $ for shelter, and almost the same amount of $ for utilities, for one person vs two

In some places, only those, who qualify for SNAP or certain other programs, can obtain food pantry/similar assistance.

For some elderly, who are just over the line and/or have higher medical expenses, then it comes down to food or medication/similar or heat/AC or moving in with family or unrelated other elderly or etc.

 

[KMendel]

What is going to happen when healthy people who are able to work can no longer hold jobs because AI has eliminated all the jobs that provide income.? That is the goal that is set. Then what?

 

[mattfivefour]

I do think it is a good idea to make sure that EVERY person on SNAP (or any other taxpayer-funded program) is indeed eligible. Cutting waste by eliminating abuse is always a good idea. It not only helps the taxpayer but the recipients as well when the only people receiving help are the ones who truly need it.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

What is going to happen when healthy people who are able to work can no longer hold jobs because AI has eliminated all the jobs that provide income.? That is the goal that is set. Then what?

Then TPTB set Universal Basic Income (UBI) and give the same amount to everyone, or depending on his or her value to society. Maybe also dependent upon family size, like the Federal poverty guidelines.
UBI means all are poor and dependent on the government.

Who can and cannot supplement his or her UBI with work (including government positions) could easily become controlled based on socio-economic status, ownership of critical facilities/businesses, politics, social engineering, social credit score, religion, payment of jizya, etc., etc., etc.

If government income is derived from tariffs instead of income taxes, then citizens residents serfs (have-nots) are truly enslaved and dependent on government whim and not withholding money for itself at the expense of the people.

Yet another step toward MOB.

Depending on how long The Lord tarries, much of this may occur before so I'm seeking The Lord's direction on work and residence.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I do think it is a good idea to make sure that EVERY person on SNAP (or any other taxpayer-funded program) is indeed eligible. Cutting waste by eliminating abuse is always a good idea. It not only helps the taxpayer but the recipients as well when the only people receiving help are the ones who truly need it.

If only LEGAL residents (citizens and otherwise) receive benefits, benefits might be made better and still save money.

Just checked a SNAP eligibility calculator.

SNAP Benefit Calculator 2025 — Free EBT Estimate by State

Estimate monthly SNAP (EBT) benefits for your household in 2025. No sign-up — fast, state-specific calculator and step-by-step help.

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Max SNAP benefit for a 1-person household in the lower 48 is $298. Less than $10 per day.

A one-person household can only net $1305 a month in 2026 in the lower 48 (approx. $1609 playing with the calculator) for max SNAP benefits
Here, a 1BR in a safe area goes for at least $1500 a month, PLUS utilities.
Section 8 requires payment of a third of GROSS income for rent 33 percent of $1609 = $530.97
Standard Medicare Part B premiums in 2026 will be $202.90 monthly.

Cell phone plan from Consumer Cellular for seniors, unlimited talk, text, and 35GB data is $40 (without AARP discount)
Less data plans start at $20. I'd be fine with a 1GB plan, which is $20. I don't videochat, stream, or download/upload stuff
Adding a separate wearable emergency device with interactive emergency service is $25 a month (works w cell phone, so GPS and on-the-go)
Cheapest internet from Xfinity is $40 a month, but next plan up ($50 a month) has better speed for videochat (good for medical and family calls). Includes some free TV, movies, etc. With internet, cell phone can be added $40 a month with more data than the above Consumer Cellular
AT&T medical alert plan with GPS/on-the-go about $60 - $75 a month
Taxes, fees, etc., add 50 percent

Simplisafe Standard monitoring (no videorecordings) 22.99 a month; Core monitoring (with videorecorsing) 32.99 (plus taxes, fees, etc.)
Vivint monitoring pricing requires getting a quote
Ring looks cheaper for similar service to Core at 9.99 a month, but I have no knowledge/experience with them
Bus/train fare $1-$3.50 per trip, depending on time of day, express, etc. Some financial assistance available. Closest thing to a pass is a reloadable card. Assuming $25 per week, $100 or more a month. Disabled Veterans ride free.
Utilities. Using highest this summer, about $200 (this can vary widely, depending on which utilities and any common/pooled), and there are numerous programs for low income

All of this is for recurring service/expenses and assumes the person already has needed hardware, as required


530.97 Rent
202.90 Medicare
733.87 Fixed mandatory expenses

75.00 Cell phone, emergency alert wearable, taxes, fees, etc. (Consumer Cellular) (without any discounts besides senior)
75.00 Internet, unlimited, fast enough for video chat, taxes, fees, etc. (Xfinity) (without any discounts)
50.00 Alarm monitoring, taxes, fees, etc. (SimpliSafe Core monitoring) (without any discounts)
200.00 Safety/communication

733.87 Fixed mandatory expenses
200.00 Safety/communication
100.00 Bus/train
200.00 Utilities
1233.87

1305.00 Net income (assumes all of $1609 gross is taxable)
1233.87 Expenses (room to reduce/cut)
71.13 Remaining for miscellaneous, discretionary, supplements, copays not covered by Medicare/$0 monthly Advantage plan, hearing aids, eyeglasses, dentures, clothing, haircut, cleaning supplies, toiletries, and paper products not covered by SNAP, etc.

+298.00 SNAP benefits for food

This rough calculation did not include a 10 percent tithe on gross income of $1609 or net income of $1305, or any other charitable giving.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I'm old enough to remember a time when almost everyone worked. Many moms stayed home with kids, but the men and many women worked daily. The marriage rate was much higher because it took a father and a mother to raise a family. The government became the "father/provider" through food stamps/SNAP and the single parent household was born.

President Johnson's War on Poverty destroyed the African American middle class in many urban areas by destroying the nuclear families and contributed to destroying African American family-owned business in predominantly African American areas. It continues and has spread across racial and economic lines. Coupled with the anti-Biblical social zeitgeist in which unwed pregnancies/single motherhood are no longer stigmatized and are rewarded, and the music and drug-driven subculture that enables and promotes lifelong gang membership, violence, crime, and exploitation of women and girls, and the result is disaster

Studies have shown repeatedly that the demise of the traditional married heterosexual Parents with their children household leads to poverty and violence/crime.

Ditto rejection and/or smothering/outlawing/persecution of Biblical values/worldview/Judaism and Christianity.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I agree with President Trump, all those who need it should have it, but those able to work should do so. I would imagine a federal judge will find some reason to halt the effort, but with the fraud identified, maybe it be allowed.

Maybe a max age for the work requirement. Ageism makes it hard to get a job, plus at some point, virtually everyone becomes unable to work. Additionally, volunteer hours should be permitted to satisfy the requirement, especially for disabled and seniors/elderly. Maybe mothers with small children, perhaps defined as those being eligible for WIC.

Churches need to be back in the business of charity and helping neighbors. It would be nice if all of this social welfare stuff were handled by churches (and synagogues, mosques, temples, etc.) and religious ministries/organizations.