A possible sneak peak at Trump's way to stop the Ukraine war and NATO won't like it one bit!!!!

[Margery]

Ok this is VERY speculative, but I was watching this - YouTube - someone I like to listen to once in a while, and this was really something IF it's true. Speak The Truth (Robert Terkla and Matt Tardio) is covering much more than that, but it's his lead story.

He picked up 2 older news articles: Putin congratulates 'real man' Trump for election and says he's READY to talk As Speak The Truth points out- this is from the Scottish Sun which is gossipy tabloid territory. So not the best source but look at the graphic in there, the map. For that you'll have to follow the link. It's dated Nov 7. In fact the article isn't much, but the graphic, that MAP is gold! This was from just after the election last month.

Then Speak The Truth refers to another more reputable source- Reuters here https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...ato-troops-mexico-end-ukraine-war-2024-11-25/ which lines up PERFECTLY with that map. It's dated Nov 25th.

Lets start with the better source first: Reuters and I'm going to BOLD some stuff to pay close attn to.

"Nov 25 (Reuters) - Republican President-elect Donald Trump says he plans to fundamentally alter the U.S. relationship with NATO during his second four-year term and rapidly bring the war in Ukraine to a close. On the campaign trail, he floated sending armed forces into Mexico to battle drug cartels and slapping expansive tariffs on friends and foes alike.
Here is a look at the foreign policy proposals Trump has pledged to advance once he takes office on Jan. 20:

NATO, UKRAINE AND EUROPEAN ALLIES
Trump has said that under his presidency, America will fundamentally rethink "NATO's purpose and NATO's mission." He has pledged to ask Europe to reimburse the U.S. for "almost $200 billion" in munitions sent to Ukraine, and he has not committed to sending further aid to the eastern European nation. Trump cut defense funding to NATO during the latter part of his first term, and he has frequently complained America was paying more than its fair share.

On the war in Ukraine, he has said he would resolve the conflict even before his inauguration. However, he faces legal restrictions on negotiating with foreign leaders before taking office, and he has made little tangible progress on the issue since winning the Nov. 5 election.

He told Reuters in an interview last year that Kyiv may have to cede some territory to reach a peace agreement. Two Trump advisers told Reuters in June that they had presented a plan to end the war in Ukraine by conditioning any further weapons aid on Kyiv agreeing to sit down with Moscow for peace talks. Vice President-elect JD Vance has signaled preliminary support for freezing battle lines at their prevailing positions as part of a negotiated settlement.

While Trump signaled in early April that he would be open to sending additional aid to Ukraine in the form of a loan, he remained mostly silent on the issue during contentious congressional negotiations over a $61 billion aid package later that month."

The rest of that article is a GOLD MINE of interesting details from Trump about China, Trade and Taiwan, then onto Mexico and Narcotics, Israel, the climate, Missile Defence and WW3!

Now look at that map at the top part of the Scottish Sun article here: Putin congratulates 'real man' Trump for election and says he's READY to talk

What you'll see is a frozen line- where Russia has territory, they keep that. Ukraine keeps what they've been able to hold onto. In between is a no mans land which is patrolled by EUROPEAN not American Troops.

Kyiv promises NO NATO membership for 20 years. That has been a BIG sticking point for Russia all along!

If you look back at the Reuters article, read between the lines here

1 Trump sounds like he wants to bill NATO for the military equipment America has sent to Ukraine!

2 Trump is going to be making NATO members pay up their back money they owe

3 Ukraine is told if you don't come to the table and sit down with Putin, then no more weapons, equipment or money from the States.

4 Putin is hurting and needs a graceful end to this war. If Trump forces Ukraine to deal, especially if Russia keeps the areas they've gained, and a promise from Ukraine not to go NATO for 20 years, that would be enough.

It's just a rumour, speculation. But it does sound like Trump. And it does sound like the deal maker that he is!

 

[mattfivefour]

You know, Marge, that speculation could be close to the mark. As Sgt Schultz used to say: "Verrrry interesting."

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I'm still very concerned about President Putin/USSR/Gog extorting Europe to give up fighting aged men (already in uniform or not) to fight in Ukraine (or elsewhere) for USSR/Gog OR MAKE UP THE PEACEKEEPING FORCE IN NO-MAN'S LAND as "neutrals"] in exchange for natural gas (it gets cold in Europe, plus industrial and commercial needs). The big winner in Europe from this is islam, as their fighting aged men (jihadists/invaders/migrants) would still be in Europe and in search of their 4 wives to spread and perpetuate islam and ultimately impose sharia. If the European men don't come home, the European women could essentially be forced into islamic polygamy (assuming they want a husband, and of course there's rape, rape gangs, forced marriages, and custody issues, which muslim men use to extort marriage, custody, child support, muslim upbringing for the child, etc.). Muslim men would almost certainly make a muslim woman the senior wife, who is dictator over the other wives, with physical "reinforcement"/"enforcement" at the hands of the husband and/or other wives.

Same pattern as has been happening in USSR/Gog, already, and has occurred many places in the world where muslims have migrated/invaded/jihad.

I'm seeing some islamic polygamy here, but not like what's going on on the other side of the Atlantic (yet).

Christian women and girls, who know the Bible and are well-versed in not being unequally yoked will resist marriage to muslims, even if this means spinsterhood, economic privation, etc. I fear far less resistance from those Christian women, who don't know, or who don't have support from their families and/or church and of course from non-Christian women. I truly fear for Jewish women and girls, Messianic or otherwise.


Perhaps this "pause," if there is one, is the result of God's turn-back of Gog [very minority view of Ezekiel 37-38-39]
If the European men are in no-man's land, when God drags Gog south, they'll simply be overrun or join the muslim hordes (Gog coalition made up of then-islamic Gog, other named islamic countries, and European countries-turned-islamic by then) as they head south for Israel.