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Whose Side Are You On? :: By The Gospelist

Andy C

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At the battle of Armageddon, there are only two sides in this conflict:

  1. God, who defends the nation of Israel
  2. Satan and his worldly minions, who wish to destroy the nation of Israel
The sides are being formed at this very moment.

Those who are wise are not on Israel’s side or on the world’s side.

We are on God’s side.

We Christian Zionists are fully aware of the failings of Israel:

  1. Israel is under a partial judgment from God (Romans 11:25), and their hearts have been hardened until the full number of Gentiles come in.
  2. When the Antichrist, who will be one of Israel’s most fierce enemies, shows up, the nation of Israel, which rejected Jesus, will foolishly jump into bed with him (John 5:43).
Despite these failings, this is what the Lord says:

“Thus says the Lord,
who gives the sun for light by day
and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night,
who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—
the Lord of hosts is his name:
‘If this fixed order departs
from before me, declares the Lord,
then shall the offspring of Israel cease
from being a nation before me forever
.’

 
The below is from the OP. Any guesses on who he is referring too?

Without naming names, when you become anti-Israel, this is who you are joining, along with the Democrats:

  1. A popular anti-Israel voice in America who is a member of a spiritually dead church denomination (Episcopalians).
  2. A once conservative pundit who is a Roman Catholic (a works-based religion with a Christian veneer), which is a church that has been anti-Israel for a long time. And she is slowly losing her marbles.
  3. A certain popular podcaster, who sounds a lot like Gibert Gottfried, who thinks Hitler was a swell guy.
 
The below is from the OP. Any guesses on who he is referring too?

Without naming names, when you become anti-Israel, this is who you are joining, along with the Democrats:

  1. A popular anti-Israel voice in America who is a member of a spiritually dead church denomination (Episcopalians).
  2. A once conservative pundit who is a Roman Catholic (a works-based religion with a Christian veneer), which is a church that has been anti-Israel for a long time. And she is slowly losing her marbles.
  3. A certain popular podcaster, who sounds a lot like Gibert Gottfried, who thinks Hitler was a swell guy.
Tucker Carlson
Candace Owens
Nick Fuentes
 
At the battle of Armageddon, there are only two sides in this conflict:

  1. God, who defends the nation of Israel
  2. Satan and his worldly minions, who wish to destroy the nation of Israel
The sides are being formed at this very moment.

Those who are wise are not on Israel’s side or on the world’s side.

We are on God’s side.

We Christian Zionists are fully aware of the failings of Israel:

  1. Israel is under a partial judgment from God (Romans 11:25), and their hearts have been hardened until the full number of Gentiles come in.
  2. When the Antichrist, who will be one of Israel’s most fierce enemies, shows up, the nation of Israel, which rejected Jesus, will foolishly jump into bed with him (John 5:43).
Despite these failings, this is what the Lord says:

“Thus says the Lord,
who gives the sun for light by day
and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night,
who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—
the Lord of hosts is his name:
‘If this fixed order departs
from before me, declares the Lord,
then shall the offspring of Israel cease
from being a nation before me forever
.’

I would like to hopefully give a little insight here to the verse you presented from Jeremiah 31. If you go to the beginning of the chapter, you will see the context clearly. There is only one New Covenant that God speaks of in the Bible, and that concerns only those in Christ Jesus:

Jeremiah 31:31-33:
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Juda: 32 not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day when I took hold of their hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; for they abode not in my covenant, and I disregarded them, saith the Lord. 33 For this is my covenant which I will make with the house of Israel; after those days, saith the Lord, I will surely put my laws into their mind, and write them on their hearts; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people.....

The " house of Israel" and the " house of Judah" are symbolic of the Israel of God, or anyone who becomes saved. It is the fulfillment of God's plan for His chosen people, those who have the faith of Abraham, which implies Christians. The promise of eternal life is for those who obey the gospel.
 
The " house of Israel" and the " house of Judah" are symbolic of the Israel of God, or anyone who becomes saved. It is the fulfillment of God's plan for His chosen people, those who have the faith of Abraham, which implies Christians. The promise of eternal life is for those who obey the gospel.
I disagree, where it says Israel and Judah, that is exactly who it means.
What is being described by Jeremiah, I believe, will take place towards the end of the tribulation and into the Millennium.

Do you believe the Church is spiritual Israel?


I'll let Jack simplify this.


The New Covenant was first promised to Israel and Jesus came to fulfill this promise. At the so-called last supper He introduced the New Covenant to His disciples (Luke 22:20). While Israel had officially rejected Him, the offer of the New Covenant remained open to all who believed in Him. Later Paul extended this promise to the Gentiles (1 Cor. 11:23-26) and the New Covenant became the foundational doctrine of the Church.

But the offer was never withdrawn from Israel, and toward the end of the Great Tribulation they will accept it. Zechariah 12:10 says,

“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.”

In Romans 11:25-27 Paul wrote that when this happens all Israel will be saved. Romans 11:27 is a summary of Jeremiah 31:33-34.







Re: Jeremiah 31:31-34. Is there a difference between the New Covenant for the Church and the New Covenant for Israel?

A
Jeremiah 31:31-34 explains that God will make a New Covenant with Israel when they return to Him. It will be similar to the New Covenant the Church enjoys with a few notable exceptions. They will still have a Temple with a priesthood but Jesus will be their High Priest as He is ours. They will be required to conduct daily sacrifices for sins and other periodic offerings, and will still observe three of the current seven Levitical feasts. Passover and Unleavened Bread will be combined and observed in the spring and Tabernacles will occur in the fall. These things are all specified in Ezekiel 45:13- 46:15.

The New Covenant for Israel will be much better than the Old, but there’s no indication in the Bible that any other group of people will ever have the type of unconditional relationship with God that we in the Church enjoy. For example, Zechariah 14:16 says that during the Millennium every nation on Earth will be required to celebrate Tabernacles in Jerusalem every year or face a judgment of drought. The Age of Grace began at the birth of the Church and will end forever with the Rapture.


Israel And The New Covenant. Follow Up

Q
Concerning your answer to the issue of Israel and the New Covenant. Biblically speaking the New Covenant was made with the House of Israel and Judah, collectively ISRAEL. Nowhere in the scriptures is it stated that the New Covenant was made with the Church (and I realize you never stated that it was). Israel as a whole did not reject Jesus, it was just their leadership. Multitudes of Jews, including priests at the time of Jesus believed in Him (Acts 6:7). Since those early days a remnant of Jewish people have existed that honor and acknowledge Jesus as their Messiah and live under the grace of the New Covenant. The New Covenant is with Israel but extends to all who wish to partake.

A
Whether they acknowledge it or not, everyone who accepts the New Covenant during the Church age is automatically part of the Church and will inherit the Church’s destiny, not Israel’s (Ephes. 1:11-14). In the Church there is neither Jew nor Gentile, slave nor free, male nor female, but all are one in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:28). Everything else is just semantics.
 
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