US Open to Giving Crimea to Russia in Peace Deal

According to Reuters – The United States is prepared to recognize Russian control over Crimea. This is part of a broader peace agreement the US has facilitating between Ukraine and Russia.

As far as its history goes – Crimea came under Russian control following the Treaty of Küçük Kaynarca in1774. Catherine the Great from Russia annexed the peninsula for Russia in 1783.

In 1954 the peninsula was transferred from the Russians to Ukraine.
In 1991 Crimea was once again made an autonomous republic within the Soviet Union. Then, as the Soviet Union collapsed in December 1991, Crimea was passed to the newly independent Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Zelensky says Crimea must be handed over to Ukraine in his mind’s imaginary peace deal.

US Open to Giving Crimea to Russia in Peace Deal | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

The potential U.S. acknowledgment of Russian control over Crimea marks a significant shift in diplomatic strategy, raising questions about the future of peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Tall Timbers]

I think Russia will be keeping all the land they've conquered, which will only increase as long as the war continues.

 

[Almost Heaven]

Russia already has Crimea...they will not be giving it back. I think the US will walk away from this mess in the very near future.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Depends on what God decides to do, re Gog/USSR*

Ultimately, Gog/USSR with coalition will move south to invade Israel.

*very minority view of Ezekiel

 

[TCC]

Its kind of comical, but Zelenski seems to be side stepped by Russia and the US. Like two parents making a decision for their 14 year old son. An optic suggesting Trump's admin is trumping the globalists...treating it like the child it is.

 

[1LoverofGod]

Zelensky Publicly Rejected Trump’s Peace Plan, Preferring Push For Maximalist Total Victory Scenario​

Even as talks progress and President Donald Trump says there is hope for a deal, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky made clear he rejects President Donald Trump’s proposal to recognise Russia’s occupation of Crimea as a price of peace, saying the Ukrainian constitution calls for nothing less than absolute victory.

This week, President Donald Trump said in interview with Time Magazine that one of the ultimate outcomes of the war will be that “Crimea will stay with Russia”, and later that a deal was close, with Ukraine and Russia needing now to meet in person in negotiations for the first time to “finish it off”.

Yet the rhetoric coming from Kyiv in recent days is far from complimentary about President Trump’s proposals. An American blueprint for peace in Ukraine was put before combatants this week and quickly rejected as politically impossible by Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky, who cited the national constitution as making anything but total victory impossible.

President Zelensky said of this position that he would accept only a total defeat of the Russian invasion, a peace on unobtainable terms: “Anything that contradicts our values or our Constitution cannot be included in any agreements”.

He said, further on Friday: “Our position is unchanged: only the Ukrainian people have the right to decide which territories are Ukrainian. The Constitution of Ukraine states that all temporarily occupied territories are temporarily occupied.

Complete Article

Zelensky Rejects Trump's Peace Plan, Preferring Total Victory Scenario

Even as talks progress and Trump says there is hope for a deal, Zelensky saying the Ukrainian constitution calls for total victory.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

 

[Andy C]

Time to cut off support and let Zelensky fund his own war which they can’t win.

 

[TCC]

One thing I don't expect to wake up to is Zelenski winning the war and victory for Ukraine. It will be interesting to see what happens. Getting peace will likely cost a lot. And may take quite a bit longer than Trump expected. If peace emerges in this, it would be a massive blow to globalism. In my estimation, this war was suppose to be part two of global reset. Part 1 being global covid shutdowns. Had Hilary won in 2016 I believe we would already be in WW3. So far, it would seem, we averted two giant reset moves. So far, witnessing world conditions that kind of somewhat hint at the fading globalist reach. IMHO. Blessings.

 

[Hol]

Where was the Ukrain’s constitution when Russia first took the Crimea? It wasn’t through war.

“On March 16, 2014, a referendum was held on the peninsula’s reunification with Russia. Over 80% of voters participated in the plebiscite, the overwhelming majority of whom supported reunification (96.7% in Crimea and 95.6% in Sevastopol). On March 18, 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a treaty on the admission of Crimea and Sevastopol to Russia, and on March 21, the document was ratified by the Federal Assembly. Despite the convincing results of the referendum, reflecting the clear will of the local population, Kiev has refused to recognize Crimea as part of Russia.”

Remands to return Crimea to Ukraine as ‘ridiculous’: Trump

TEHRAN, Apr. 27 (MNA) – US President Donald Trump said that Ukraine's demands to return its lost territories, including Crimea, are ridiculous.

en.mehrnews.com

 

[1LoverofGod]

Where was the Ukrain’s constitution when Russia first took the Crimea? It wasn’t through war.

“On March 16, 2014, a referendum was held on the peninsula’s reunification with Russia. Over 80% of voters participated in the plebiscite, the overwhelming majority of whom supported reunification (96.7% in Crimea and 95.6% in Sevastopol). On March 18, 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a treaty on the admission of Crimea and Sevastopol to Russia, and on March 21, the document was ratified by the Federal Assembly. Despite the convincing results of the referendum, reflecting the clear will of the local population, Kiev has refused to recognize Crimea as part of Russia.”

Remands to return Crimea to Ukraine as ‘ridiculous’: Trump

TEHRAN, Apr. 27 (MNA) – US President Donald Trump said that Ukraine's demands to return its lost territories, including Crimea, are ridiculous.

en.mehrnews.com

Putin has made it his goal to reestablish the Soviet Union by taking back territory that used to be part it before it collapsed in 1991.
Maybe the Ukrainian President in 2014 didn't want to make it an issue at the time?
Zelenski made it an issue when he became the president of Ukraine in 2019?

 

[mattfivefour]

Ukraine has always been deeply divided. I remember back in the '80s and '90s in Saskatchewan (which has a very high Ukrainian population) that there were two main Ukrainian population groups. And they hated each other bitterly. This animosity extended even to their art, musical and dance groups. Very sad.

 

[1LoverofGod]

Ukraine has always been deeply divided. I remember back in the '80s and '90s in Saskatchewan (which has a very high Ukrainian population) that there were two main Ukrainian population groups. And they hated each other bitterly. This animosity extended even to their art, musical and dance groups. Very sad.

Yes
In fact today there are many Ukrainian people who don't care for the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Peaceful people. There are Christians in Ukraine. Zelenski is a globalist with an agenda.
And there are also many neo-nazi people still in Ukraine.
Same with Russia. Many decent people there, including Christians. But the leadership wants to make it completely authoritarian with Communist ideology.
The world is a mess and Only Jesus can bring True Justice at His second coming.
Revelation 19:11-15

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Crimea has changed hands a whole bunch of times over the Centuries.
In 1954 Russia ceded Crimea to Ukraine. At the time Russia and Ukraine were both independent states within the USSR.
In 2014, Russia (Gog/USSR) annexed Crimea.
The below entry in Wiki is interesting, especially starting far enough down in the article to start with the Russian Civil War of 1917 and reading through to the present Gog/USSR invasion of Ukraine.

History of Crimea

History of Crimea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

One thing I don't expect to wake up to is Zelenski winning the war and victory for Ukraine. It will be interesting to see what happens. Getting peace will likely cost a lot. And may take quite a bit longer than Trump expected. If peace emerges in this, it would be a massive blow to globalism. In my estimation, this war was suppose to be part two of global reset. Part 1 being global covid shutdowns. Had Hilary won in 2016 I believe we would already be in WW3. So far, it would seem, we averted two giant reset moves. So far, witnessing world conditions that kind of somewhat hint at the fading globalist reach. IMHO. Blessings.

I think he purposefully doesn't want to win so he can continue wearing his trakky daks and not a suit to formal occasions LOL

 

[Margery]

I think he purposefully doesn't want to win so he can continue wearing his trakky daks and not a suit to formal occasions LOL

That is the best explanation yet!

 

[Cheeky200386]

Time to cut off support and let Zelensky fund his own war which they can’t win.

Do you think Trump will ever do that? I’m curious what’s taking him so long to cut Zelensky off.

 

[Margery]

Do you think Trump will ever do that? I’m curious what’s taking him so long to cut Zelensky off.

This was what was taking him so long.

It wasn't about cutting Zelensky off but on gaining the mineral rights (Ukraine has those infamous rare earth minerals that go into chips)

US and Ukraine sign long-awaited natural resources deal

The White House has been pushing for the agreement as a prerequisite for further military assistance.

www.bbc.com

It came up about 6 hours ago

 

[Cheeky200386]

This was what was taking him so long.

It wasn't about cutting Zelensky off but on gaining the mineral rights (Ukraine has those infamous rare earth minerals that go into chips)

US and Ukraine sign long-awaited natural resources deal

The White House has been pushing for the agreement as a prerequisite for further military assistance.

www.bbc.com

It came up about 6 hours ago

I’ll go take a read to catch myself up. Thank you!

 

[Cheeky200386]

This was what was taking him so long.

It wasn't about cutting Zelensky off but on gaining the mineral rights (Ukraine has those infamous rare earth minerals that go into chips)

US and Ukraine sign long-awaited natural resources deal

The White House has been pushing for the agreement as a prerequisite for further military assistance.

www.bbc.com

It came up about 6 hours ago

Wow, that makes a lot of sense now. I’m curious how this will impact Russia and their invasion. This is definitely interesting.