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Obama admin 'manufactured' intelligence to create 2016 Russian election interference narrative, documents show

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EXCLUSIVE: The Obama administration "manufactured and politicized intelligence" to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, despite information from the intelligence community stating otherwise, Fox News Digital has learned.

On Friday, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard declassified documents revealing "overwhelming evidence" that demonstrates how, after President Donald Trump won the 2016 election against Hillary Clinton, then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would be the years-long Trump–Russia collusion probe.
 
Am I allowed to laugh a bit?

And cheers to Tulsi Gabbard for saying it out loud!!! Bout time!!!!

Let's hope the CIA and FBI get a good old fashioned spring cleaning from the top down. Long overdue. And praying that non partisanship becomes a virtue again on both sides so there won't be civil war every time there's an election in future.
 
Am I allowed to laugh a bit?

And cheers to Tulsi Gabbard for saying it out loud!!! Bout time!!!!

Let's hope the CIA and FBI get a good old fashioned spring cleaning from the top down. Long overdue. And praying that non partisanship becomes a virtue again on both sides so there won't be civil war every time there's an election in future.
After the Epstein debacle, yes, of course you may laugh. Its almost like the right wants to just tell stories we would like to hear. And do nothing about it. This is gonna be lame...lol. So still you may laugh. But for his birthday, I gave my brother-in-law a T-shirt sporting the WWII Ghost in the Machine division emblem. He's into stuff like that. They were like a traveling circus for the front lines. Traveling from town to town helping to format psyops. Pretty interesting story that saved thousands of lives.

One way I generally look at how things are going today is getting used to in some ways looking at meaning via its result. Not so much the meaning of the thing itself. But back engineer from its effect. An example of this is if we feel nothing will happen on a host of fronts (I don't think any conservative was expecting anything from Biden...lol), although it a reasonable conclusion based on years and years of no justice to believe it when we see it...but if we feel that, likely so does the foe. Now that can be a wildly childish hope. And perhaps it may be. But without meaning to go fringe and all, if globalism really is interested in eroding America and there is genuineness in pushback, to the degree we see that as real (Klaus, COVID, etc.), if we are at war, it would seem to be a war of information. But if truly at war, the principle that there would have to be psyops all over the place to minimize casualties would have to be in play.

If globalism is not a real threat then there really is no war. If there is a threat playing with everyone's mind and that is the way the cookie crumbles,

If the only psyops out there would be from globalists--one random sample to see if it is so = immigration. Is what we are seeing just pretending to deport half f America, lol? In an arena who's time has come, we see what that looks like. Because a huge globalism trope is to allow mass migration. So if the border has secured (what things look like when the Trump admin does "something") an argument can be made that lack of action might be more tied to how ripely other preps are in place. We see them when their time to be most effective to move on. Whether we are at war in this way or not clarity is to be desired. But one thing is for sure. We certainly aren't left without an example.

* While Trump was on an Arab tour, we thought Trump admin might be snubbing Israel. A narrative in play for strategic leverage. When Iran was bombed, it seemed to come a few weeks early. Symptoms of psyopism it would appear. We know what it looks like when the time is ripe. Blessings.
 
You do realize neither Trump, or Bondi have the authority to release the transcripts from the trial? What Trump has recently done is order the AG to release the transcripts, subject to the Courts/judge approval.

The press continues to try and drive a wedge between Trump supporters.
No doubt brother the left will use media to divide. And then Trump influencer media will fight for their legitimacy, and whatever ill effect that has on the Trump supporter base itself too be prone to contention too. But the way it appears to me in knowing the issues, being familiar with the Trump camp and the left, and certainly being far too familiar for anyone's good, the wiles of the left...something the Glenn Beck mentioned sounds to may be the most likely reason, as Alex Jones puts it (that Trump seems to be mutilating himself to hold to some kind of mystery narrative--and it is a strange political animal to watch unfold). And although this is pure conjecture, it kind of makes, to me, at the moment, the most sense. And that would be...

Perhaps Trump, in speaking with Israel, said: "Bibi, since Epstein has association with the CIA and Massad, we know its bad for both of us. But for Israel, it would be worse. Since that is the case, please consider not to do a regime change in Iran (Trump believing likely this to be in bad faith for a healthy re-commercializing of the world), and if you hold to that i will keep the Epstein issue on the shelf."

Maybe that conversation never happened. But, to me, it would explain what to me and many looks like political contortions we never seen before like this. With the genuine concern of Trumps base, i would lean to it being something more than just dividing his base stunts.

In the way i hold my views, on that front, what I would tend to believe this phenomenon to be likely is the episode in our story where we have seen Trump overcome impossible odds to be president. Now its time to see what that looks like when his own base turns against him. For the purpose of demonstrating his true metal in power position. This: that even though Trump should have tanked and brought all of MAGA with him...and lose the house and senate in 2026, even so, he and MAGA will likely prosper anyway. Not because Trump is all that and a bag of chips. Or that his base is some political representation of the church triumphant. But just a story unfolding of a man that should be road kill. Along with his party. And yet, not. Me thinks.

With all the controversy, Trump still is rising in the polls apparently. Quite interesting to see in this light. Blessing brother :)
 
Now its time to see what that looks like when his own base turns against him.
I don’t know brother, from the little I understand from your normal lengthy posts, it’s seems you are the one who has turned against Trump. Perhaps that’s from years on JDs forum? However, that’s certainly your choice and right to do so.
 
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I don’t know brother, from the little I understand from your normal lengthy posts, it’s seems you are the one who has turned against Trump. Perhaps that’s from years on JDs forum? However, that’s certainly your choice and right to do so.
Before I knew about JD, I was somewhat concerned at Trump potential for being harsh at times. When Scaramucci started the Lincoln Project, the level of vitriol that accompanies Trump at times did give some pause and understanding how some could see Trump as unreasonably harsh. But I understood that if anyone would really go after the deep state, they would have to be a strong believer or a Narcissist. No in-between that could likely survive, much less defeat them. I still believe that today. But I understand why it looks the way it does for JD.

What I mean by what you quoted is that I believe Trump will succeed. And America too in large part because of him. But also in larger part, because of God, Israel, and the times we are in. I not only think Trump is good for the country. But necessary for it. I heard on a recent podcast from an insider on the Epstein issue that certain significant number of children would not be on the list for certain governmental care that could otherwise be assisted because that age range they were in is not something government would want the Epstein narrative to be about. That is a horrible thought if true. And may be the state of the nation.

What I believe this presidency is about is that it will greatly succeed in dramatic ways. I'm fairly certain of that. And America, I believe does need that. But I can understand the fallout. It may prove to be something else. But what my overall views might look like I understand are nuanced and really not in any camp. To me, the drama surrounding how Epstein is being handled is likely more providentially in the hands of God than what Trump makes it out to be. Where you might find this Epstein issue to mostly be attempts to divide Trump's base, I would see it as a way to bring Epstein even more to the forefront. Likely as something to avalanche later. It still is a bit off-putting though. I believe. the Epstein issue goes beyond the deep meaning of what in the media they make it out to be. Blessings.
 
Nothing will come of this, I am convinced.
Nothing ever does!
What happened to Hillary? Nothing.
Dear sister, that is almost the camp I might find myself one day. But not today. There are certainly a lot of concerns i have. Amen. But one thing is for sure it true. If America is to strive and stabilize it would likely not do so from its leaders because of how the country is anchored in the constitution. It would have to come from us. I'm not exactly sure what that is supposed to look like. But it probably would look like in part, what the country is faced to consider. As it looks like the age of quicksand, America would have to care...enough. I believe America allowed her identity to erode. And that is likely why we are here. But I also believe that it is exactly "here" we need to care in our identity crisis. I know this will sound like the least intuitive vibe on the planet. But I believe what we have here is not so much a country having a failure to communicate, as much as what restoration looks like if one be possible. If one be true. Blessings.
 
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