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New Canada PM seeks ‘reliable’ Europe allies after Trump threats

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said Monday that his country was seeking to reinforce ties with “reliable” European allies, as he embarked on a transatlantic trip after his country’s economy and even sovereignty came under unprecedented threat from its southern neighbour the United States.

Carney, the former Bank of England governor who succeeded Justin Trudeau last week, conspicuously chose key Europe powers France and the United Kingdom, rather than the United States, for his first foreign visits after President Donald Trump ramped up the rhetoric against Canada.

Describing Canada as the “most European of non-European countries”, Carney said his nation needed to boost ties with European allies like France while trying to retain positive relations with the United States.

“It is more important than ever for Canada to reinforce its ties with reliable allies like France,” Carney said during a press conference with President Emmanuel Macron at the Elysee Palace on his first trip abroad since becoming prime minister on Friday.

“I want to ensure that France and the whole of Europe works enthusiastically with Canada, the most European of non-European countries, determined like you to maintain the most positive possible relations with the United States,” Carney said.

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I"m actually not surprised. This is kind of what gave Justin such longstandning lead I believe. I feel bad for Canada to have to go through this because of Trump escalation. But I'm not exactly certain that Canada would just go with a more helpful agenda toward the USA had Trump been more neutral. It seems like a country pretty set in its Euro leaning roots. At least at the time of this US Presidential transition. @Margery, would you think there was a real shot at conservative rule in Canada after Justin? I believe in general there are conservative concerns in the country. But isn't the majority of Canada left leaning regardless what Trump does though?
 
I"m actually not surprised. This is kind of what gave Justin such longstandning lead I believe. I feel bad for Canada to have to go through this because of Trump escalation. But I'm not exactly certain that Canada would just go with a more helpful agenda toward the USA had Trump been more neutral. It seems like a country pretty set in its Euro leaning roots. At least at the time of this US Presidential transition. @Margery, would you think there was a real shot at conservative rule in Canada after Justin? I believe in general there are conservative concerns in the country. But isn't the majority of Canada left leaning regardless what Trump does though?

to your question "would you think there was a real shot at conservative rule in Canada after Justin?"

Absolutely not now. There was!

Trump would have been fine if he'd stuck to the tariffs on the drugs/migrant thing. He'd have been fine if all he did was renegotiate the Free Trade Treaty. We were ready to make concessions.


UNTIL Trump mentioned the 51st State thing, annexing Canada.

Lest you think he is joking, (I did at first) he is NOT!

He said in an interview (that has gotten a fair bit of air time up here), that his plans are to crush us economically then take over.

He's backed that up with MULTIPLE comments about how he needs to re draw our border and plans to take our water (Columbia River Treaty stuff) to pipe it down south to California without our permission(the last time I was there, cali still hadn't figured out how to install water saving toilets or how to conserve rain water)

When that happened the polls went from a sure victory with plenty of margin for Pierre Poilievre (who is Conservative) who would be quite ok with taking out any unfairness and renegotiating anything that bugs Donald

to being a slam dunk for the Liberals under Carney (Justin on steroids) who is painting himself as Canada's last hope.

It's WAY BEYOND trolling Trudeau! (most of Canada loved it when that was all it was, but then Trump's later remarks proved it's no joke- you probably don't hear that feed much in the States)

We have people worrying about Americans invading and there is quite a lot of support across Canada for anything to send a strong message to Trump to back off the plans for takeover. (I don't think troops will be involved, Trump plans to simply break us financially)

It's even pulled Alberta back into Canada along with the perpetually separatist Quebec. That has NEVER happened.

Alberta has joined the other provinces and territories in a number of actions in response to Trump's threat.

All American made alcohol from beer to hard liquor is off our shelves across the country.

Right now in the grocery stores up here the stores have helpfully marked Canadian goods and produce and stuff from Mexico, Peru, Europe etc. Canada FIRST then anywhere BUT the USA is the general rule for shopping now.

The stores have placed American goods on the bottom shelves, and where they missed something, there is a movement among shoppers who find an American product to turn it upside down along with several others of the same type to alert other shoppers that it's American.

It's hurting some American firms who employ Canucks - like Walmart or Canadian made stuff from American firms. I see Canadian owned and operated now on the signs outside fast food places for example. I don't shop much of that, but I was out to the drugstore this morning and was startled to see a huge sign outside A&W burgers saying that and "we use Canadian beef".

The govt is looking at cancelling the purchase of the Lockheed F35's that we ordered, and going with the Swedish Gripen in our defense spending. That is on the table along with a boycott of American made cars and equipment in favour of Japanese or other imports.

That car market boycott thing is big. One of the reasons for the Canadian factories was the fact we buy a huge amount of American cars. That looks like it will be changing soon.

People here are VERY VERY angry that Trump would not only consider taking Canada, but have the gall to explain his plans to do so.

Make no mistake, his plan to economically break us first, THEN annex us is now considered a serious threat so we are pulling together for the first time in history, where the French, the native bands, the ROC (rest of Canada) and Alberta are all on the same page.

The Liberals under Trudeau/Carney didn't have a hope of re-election- Now it looks like they will take home a sure majority.

It is sad because Trump miscalculated on this (unless my fellow Canucks are right, and it was all part of his plan) and the party (Conservatives) under Pierre Poilievre who would be most friendly to sensible economic stuff and increasing defence spending (and probably buying more of those American made Lockheed F-35's) are not going to win.

I think Trump is right that what he just did is going to kill us economically- and if it goes downhill as fast as I think Carney is capable of, he just might get his wish- annexing Canada before his term is over.

It is WAY more serious up here than your news is reporting.

I know that isn't going to be easy to hear, but that is the climate up here right now.

As for the French, we have always had somewhat of an easy trade agreement with France, they are never going to be our main trading partner, but I expect to see us trying to find other markets for our exports.


Currently I think we supply 1/3 of your domestic consumption of oil, but we do need to change that, and I think under Trump you should be able to get your oil production back up shortly. We always should have refined here at home, not sent out south at a discount to be refined, then sold back to us at a higher rate.

Ditto Steel and Aluminum which Europe might be interested in. We have LONG since needed to sell our timber elsewhere and sell it dressed, not raw. Uranium and rare earth stuff always has a market. We sell most of our grain overseas anyway. In an odd way, this does us a favour- gets us moving to find other markets.

Normally I like Trump, I enjoy his sense of humour, I think he is good for America.

In a funny opposite sort of way, it's also good for Canada. It's pulled us together from west to east in a way that has NEVER been done.

And something that should have been done years ago is Canada being financially independent from America.

No more free trade agreements. Buy and sell when it's convenient, otherwise go our separate ways. Everybody stands on their own 2 feet.

So if we can survive economically - this might be an unexpected benefit to Canada, but I fully expect Carney to waste this opportunity and go further down the socialist idiocracy hole.

Meanwhile as always if you get into a problem, we will be at your side- maybe not flying F-35s- they might be Swedish Gripens but ordinary Canadians still love their US counterparts, just not Donald Trump's plans to annex Canada.

And if you like your potash (the K in NPK fertilizer) then you might see a price adjustment. He's pointed out frequently that we don't have anything America needs- and the 2 places on the planet that produce potash in any appreciable amounts are Canada and Belarus. The way to mine potash takes 5 or 6 years to get going, if you can find a deposit.

That is necessary for American farmers to produce grain and other food grown in the soil or feeds for animals. It is a VITAL part of making commercial fertilizer in industrial quantities.

It's a whole new world out there, and old ways are being shaken up.

Prepping us for the Trib if you ask me.

Folding Canada and Mexico and probably Greenland and Central America into the USA before the next American president who will likely then make this a zone of the whole 10 kings thing.

We go first, you swallow us up, then you get absorbed into the globalist dream.
 
to your question "would you think there was a real shot at conservative rule in Canada after Justin?"

Absolutely not now. There was!

Trump would have been fine if he'd stuck to the tariffs on the drugs/migrant thing. He'd have been fine if all he did was renegotiate the Free Trade Treaty. We were ready to make concessions.


UNTIL Trump mentioned the 51st State thing, annexing Canada.

Lest you think he is joking, (I did at first) he is NOT!

He said in an interview (that has gotten a fair bit of air time up here), that his plans are to crush us economically then take over.

He's backed that up with MULTIPLE comments about how he needs to re draw our border and plans to take our water (Columbia River Treaty stuff) to pipe it down south to California without our permission(the last time I was there, cali still hadn't figured out how to install water saving toilets or how to conserve rain water)

When that happened the polls went from a sure victory with plenty of margin for Pierre Poilievre (who is Conservative) who would be quite ok with taking out any unfairness and renegotiating anything that bugs Donald

to being a slam dunk for the Liberals under Carney (Justin on steroids) who is painting himself as Canada's last hope.

It's WAY BEYOND trolling Trudeau! (most of Canada loved it when that was all it was, but then Trump's later remarks proved it's no joke- you probably don't hear that feed much in the States)

We have people worrying about Americans invading and there is quite a lot of support across Canada for anything to send a strong message to Trump to back off the plans for takeover. (I don't think troops will be involved, Trump plans to simply break us financially)

It's even pulled Alberta back into Canada along with the perpetually separatist Quebec. That has NEVER happened.

Alberta has joined the other provinces and territories in a number of actions in response to Trump's threat.

All American made alcohol from beer to hard liquor is off our shelves across the country.

Right now in the grocery stores up here the stores have helpfully marked Canadian goods and produce and stuff from Mexico, Peru, Europe etc. Canada FIRST then anywhere BUT the USA is the general rule for shopping now.

The stores have placed American goods on the bottom shelves, and where they missed something, there is a movement among shoppers who find an American product to turn it upside down along with several others of the same type to alert other shoppers that it's American.

It's hurting some American firms who employ Canucks - like Walmart or Canadian made stuff from American firms. I see Canadian owned and operated now on the signs outside fast food places for example. I don't shop much of that, but I was out to the drugstore this morning and was startled to see a huge sign outside A&W burgers saying that and "we use Canadian beef".

The govt is looking at cancelling the purchase of the Lockheed F35's that we ordered, and going with the Swedish Gripen in our defense spending. That is on the table along with a boycott of American made cars and equipment in favour of Japanese or other imports.

That car market boycott thing is big. One of the reasons for the Canadian factories was the fact we buy a huge amount of American cars. That looks like it will be changing soon.

People here are VERY VERY angry that Trump would not only consider taking Canada, but have the gall to explain his plans to do so.

Make no mistake, his plan to economically break us first, THEN annex us is now considered a serious threat so we are pulling together for the first time in history, where the French, the native bands, the ROC (rest of Canada) and Alberta are all on the same page.

The Liberals under Trudeau/Carney didn't have a hope of re-election- Now it looks like they will take home a sure majority.

It is sad because Trump miscalculated on this (unless my fellow Canucks are right, and it was all part of his plan) and the party (Conservatives) under Pierre Poilievre who would be most friendly to sensible economic stuff and increasing defence spending (and probably buying more of those American made Lockheed F-35's) are not going to win.

I think Trump is right that what he just did is going to kill us economically- and if it goes downhill as fast as I think Carney is capable of, he just might get his wish- annexing Canada before his term is over.

It is WAY more serious up here than your news is reporting.

I know that isn't going to be easy to hear, but that is the climate up here right now.

As for the French, we have always had somewhat of an easy trade agreement with France, they are never going to be our main trading partner, but I expect to see us trying to find other markets for our exports.


Currently I think we supply 1/3 of your domestic consumption of oil, but we do need to change that, and I think under Trump you should be able to get your oil production back up shortly. We always should have refined here at home, not sent out south at a discount to be refined, then sold back to us at a higher rate.

Ditto Steel and Aluminum which Europe might be interested in. We have LONG since needed to sell our timber elsewhere and sell it dressed, not raw. Uranium and rare earth stuff always has a market. We sell most of our grain overseas anyway. In an odd way, this does us a favour- gets us moving to find other markets.

Normally I like Trump, I enjoy his sense of humour, I think he is good for America.

In a funny opposite sort of way, it's also good for Canada. It's pulled us together from west to east in a way that has NEVER been done.

And something that should have been done years ago is Canada being financially independent from America.

No more free trade agreements. Buy and sell when it's convenient, otherwise go our separate ways. Everybody stands on their own 2 feet.

So if we can survive economically - this might be an unexpected benefit to Canada, but I fully expect Carney to waste this opportunity and go further down the socialist idiocracy hole.

Meanwhile as always if you get into a problem, we will be at your side- maybe not flying F-35s- they might be Swedish Gripens but ordinary Canadians still love their US counterparts, just not Donald Trump's plans to annex Canada.

And if you like your potash (the K in NPK fertilizer) then you might see a price adjustment. He's pointed out frequently that we don't have anything America needs- and the 2 places on the planet that produce potash in any appreciable amounts are Canada and Belarus. The way to mine potash takes 5 or 6 years to get going, if you can find a deposit.

That is necessary for American farmers to produce grain and other food grown in the soil or feeds for animals. It is a VITAL part of making commercial fertilizer in industrial quantities.

It's a whole new world out there, and old ways are being shaken up.

Prepping us for the Trib if you ask me.

Folding Canada and Mexico and probably Greenland and Central America into the USA before the next American president who will likely then make this a zone of the whole 10 kings thing.

We go first, you swallow us up, then you get absorbed into the globalist dream.
Wow. That is something. Might you have any video links of Trump regarding Canada in this way? If so, I would love to see them. What you just describedd to me is something. Tucker Carlson did say, "We are coming for you Canada." I'm so sorry to hear how all this is affecting you guys. I don't exactly see Trump as an imperialist in the common sense. To the xtent certain regions are protection though, I would see that kind of imperialism with Him. To me, what it sounds like is Trump seems to be doing a kind of reserve action.

What I mean is that typically, from what I understand, globalists practices on countries like Australia, those in Europe, and Canada before bringing strategies for America. What Trump seems to be doing is the inverse of that. Not trying to practice a greater strategy on Canada to perfect to bring somewhere else. But to upend Canada's succeptibility to that. To me, Trump's eye on Canada is really a about going after the EU and globalists strongholds. That probably sounds polyanish. But What you are describing sounds to me like that. It would be a complete failure to severaly damage a neighboring country. Ok, I'm gonna share something here and I know it will sound nuts. But please humor me...lol.

“If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.”​

― Sun Tzu,

This Trump, from what I have seen, is often the person we think Trump is. Kind of a walking bag of that. What's quoted. His very persona, is it, in my estimation In war, the ability to secure entry is crucial. To the extent you believe Trump wants Canada as a 51 state, is to the extent he likely has an interest in taking down the globalists. If making Canada the 51st state is what you see. What you really see, I believe, is the level of his intent to take down globalism. If we look at it this way, in that sense, we get to see how serious he is about taking down the NWO. So I would ask, "How much do you think he wants Canada as a 51st state?"

That may sound strange. But to me, its a pretty huge tell. Aside from that, not many I run into are aware of how influence Cyrus was used to build the US. He was famous for conquering areas where he would let them remain rather autonomous under his rule. Having a neighbor that hates you Is stupid. Meaning, whatever he tries would likely end in not making a total enemy out of your neighbor. I hope it does not sound too naive to suggest that it's not Canada he is after. Its your location and your EU ties. Margery dear sister, we have no idea how Canada might be currently used toward the United States from a globalist strategy standpoint. Knowing Trump, it might even be some form of diversion for all we know. I don't know how bad things have to get to pull a resolve. But quite often Trump says one thing, to actually get another.

Having said that, what is real and painful from him in your country Is devastatingly real. And I am honestly not trying to make light of that. But a united Canada is a national Canada. I see the world stage today to be a struggle between globalism and nationalism. So if what Trump is doing is uniting Canada amazingly, I would not exactly write that off as Trump miscalculating. This, to me, is kinda what he does. To me, that would seem intentional. Using irregular warfare by transforming Canada into a country that cares about its nation is just about the best thing Cananda can become to fight globalism. This is what he seems to have tried to do in America. Make us care to have our country. That is kind of how he won the election. One theme of uniting America (Kennedy, Tulsi as examples) is to show America to care for itself. DOGE. Trump can't defeat globalism. He's just a man. So, getting the will of the people to care is how he overpowered the voting systems to make it too big to rig. Because he was able to demonstrate care for the country in uniting it. We know this, because he won. I have watched Trump for 7 years now, to me he is all about showing not telling. And he uses perception of who people think he is to do that. Its kind of part of the systematic. I believe Sometimes the people have to be shown -- is practically a montra we might align with his real campaign. A win in America AND an impossible uniting of Canada. Odd, right? Within two months that is what we have.

If we don't think he kind of understands the enemy well, how did he win? Looking at it this way, amazes me. This could not be done without God's intervention. No man is that smart or strategic. But if God is interested in uniting Canada to make it care about its country more, globalism has already been defeated in a very practical way. What I look for is not so much what Trump does or says. Its what God might do with it. And for Canada, just like Americ (no coincidence) it would appear God is transforming Canada into a country that cares about itself. Sure it could be a goof. But really consider something perhaps. How is it he can win an election because America "cares about itself again?" I try to watch for what God is doing because I don't think its about Trump so much as it is about what God is doing in our day. And He proved He can by the presenting of a freakshow election the US just got. Making it impossible to miss.

So it may sound like i'm thinking overly patriotic. Or that Trump is the "the chosen one." I don't think Trump is able to superboost Israel. But I would see God likely use Trump there too. Again, I'm not trying to make light of your country being hit so hard. But because you guys are deeply tied to the EU so strongly influenced (targeted), again, t even) the degree Trump wants you guys as our 51st state, is to the degree we can measure his interest in downing globalism, is how is kind of comes across to me. So, I ask again. How much does Trump seem to want Canada as a 51st state? And if God ok's it, what do you think will happen to the NWO?

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I really feel for you guys and will be in my prayers that it does not have to get much worse. But if we are at a day and hour where God is interested in dealing with globalism, then that is probably what we are going to see, though. And I would say what your country feels right now, is it premiere proving bellwether. I don't think dear sister this plan includes destroying your country. More like an economic gorilla warfare version of DOGE like choking the dragon. If that makes sense? Sometimes i get lost in where to draw line like anyone. And this is pretty messy for sure. But a faint flavor of Tsu in something like this is Trump looking like a clown while Carney feels emboldened. Powerful. If it is Tsu, it would likely be that something else is coming. Game theory at that level is hard to fathom i believe. Its easier to see Trump, the overreacting adolescent. Or the embarrassing thought theme of Trump playing 4D chess assumed, when in reality he's a drunken sailor. From what i have seen of Trump, he not only counts on his opposition to see him as weak and overreactive, but pushes the envelop.

What i'm sharing here is not merely trolling. That is just a college hazing. I don't believe WW3 needs to take place. I believe we have been in an information war for quite a while. I don't see this as trolling but literally psychological warfare on some pretty deep levels. But if this is Tsu like, the game theory would be to inflate Carney in over confidence. Because whatever is in the wings, he won't be ready for. It's not pleasant. But it does seem to tell a bit of a story along the way. Let's try something. Let's look at this from a different angle. If we reverse engineer where we think this could go, it kind of tells a different story. And the characters seem to take on different orientation.

So lets say, the end game, or an end game is declassification. We live a world that is used to being duped. So Pam Bondi releases an Epstein nothing burger. She was conned. She was duped into looking like a fool. So, if you wanted to throw your opponent off, you might do something like that. To put them into false ease. We can't imagine a world of justice. Or competency. So if we are feeling that, whatever that means to the opposition would have them at peace too. If Pam hands over the real files of Epstein, we consider ourselves grown up enough to handle it. And in the social square when again it does not come, we ourselves feel smarter thinking, "See, i knew it." Right there. If one were to release info to catch an opponent off-guard, that would be a way to make them feel smart. It is something that could be used. I bring that up because the way it looks to me is declass is likely one of the major playing pieces to reorg the world.

If things are not in place to make the best use of info, it is squandered if released too early. Also if you release a trump card and you are exposed to your neighbor, you just killed and injured thousands of Americans. So i would just see this more or less different cushions to stabilize the environment. Secure the area. Canada being in the hands of EU influence would be reckless to leave in tact like that if you were to release info that will get you maximum pushback and endanger maybe even millions. So you keep your enemy thinking you are a dupe. Release info like an embarrassing child. Because, as you irritate them by taunting to release info, surround their psyche with a one-two punch. One, taunt your enemy with exposure. So they fill their hearts with defensive vengeance. And two, "Yes im a child releasing info, please make fun of me." This level of psyop likely comforts the enemy within their irritation. Sealing them up in their own cocoon of falsely perceived leverage.

Canada as a neighbor would have too much usefulness to globalism if they are tossed to and fro with leaders. You mentioned the previous candidate was right wing and could have helped America more. Amen. But if the game plan is to take down the FED lets say, staying with mild tariffs i don't think would cut it. So we see we have to go more aggressively. We have to. With conservative leadership in power in Cananda while tariffs increase strategically world wide, the globalists are not just going to let that happen. They would use Canadian infrastructure (as part of their inroad retaliation project regardless who is in office). So if you know globalists will use Canadian infrastructure to retaliate, we have placed the conservative in jeopardy. If you know how your enemy plays, you time who is where and when. So if it is Tsu, then Carney needs to be in place for that. One way to potentially look at this is that this is not about smart helpful moves to make 4 years in office successful. This is about losing America altogether. A completely different game. And if you know your going to hit something hard in 6 to 9 months, you want the bad guy in office. Not the good guy. It might be the difference between people of another country being a better neighbor for real footing and protection vs. having a neighbor at all. I believe we are in irregular warfare.

Economics are unpredictable. So it makes sense this may simply be Trump not knowing how that exactly works. But I don't think what is going on is trying to improve public relations economically in the world the way it is. I think the goal here is to change the landscape so that there is a more pure and trust worthy thoroughfare by which to run economies on. This is not always going to be comfortable. America might suffer too some. But the eye on the ball i don't think is trying to make the system we have work. I would guess it to be to rewire how it works. A game of thrones like. This probably sound really bizarre. lol. But we are in the catbird seat. So i guess we shall see. But i also say this to hopefully bring hope. That maybe its not a bad thing that Carney is in place. Its not pleasant. But it may be necessary. Again i try and look at things as it would seem to fit how God might reorg things. Not Trump.

To make things even harder, we have most of evangelicalism insisting to see things go a certain way. And that way does not include Trump. Or where it might on the other extreme is worse and ridiculous. Like some golden age. But we have this huge divergence. Folks hoping things go better. Those who insist it cannot. And then there likely is reality. A lion out of its cage. Not tamable to our mores so much. And if true, tells a far different story than either extremes. Me thinks. Blessings.
 
How much does Trump seem to want Canada as a 51st state? And if God ok's it, what do you think will happen to the NWO?
I can't answer for his heart in this, but I can state a couple of things based on my understanding of Scripture.

1 God controls the heart of kings (leaders) and those in authority. He controls Trump, this interaction with Trudeau, Trump's grievances against Canada, some of which are factual, others are based off some weird misunderstanding. The outcome WILL flow according to prophecy (which doesn't mention either country but we can see a general outline) So we know that eventually the NWO gets their way.

2 God is in charge of history. We have free will choice, but God knows the outcome and

3 God has outlined history in advance. Not all the details, but enough to know that somehow, just before or after the Rapture, we would see the rise of 10 kings without a kingdom- before the AC rises, and the AC doesn't rise till after we are out of here. Whether that is technocrats ruling the people as the elites in power or 10 economic zones or as I think- a bit of both.

We know that Rome 2.0 rises and that is the kingdom of the AC. The NWO people along with WEF and the globalists (and technocrats) have been working for that day without even knowing what it is they are building towards. God has restrained the speed of this NWO coming together but when the Rapture takes place, it will be quick as the Restrainer - the restraints of the Holy Spirit acting thru the church, will be removed, allowing it to come together at full speed then.

Building the tower of Babel all over again. Using modern tech to control currency transactions, and people's loyalties.

The WEF are trying to crash the world economy -this is part of why Trump is being nudged towards tariffs during a time when the world economy, the stock market, the American banking system is extremely fragile.

This will eventually bring in the type of digital currency that Europe is changing to this fall. Christine LaGarde outlined it, Britt Gillettes video earlier today on the new Euro. Now I understand what they are doing. They are removing cash, replacing it with this digital stuff, all the better to trace people with. Britt titled it the end of freedom.

We know that at some point the entire world falls under the power of the AC willingly or otherwise- so he can cause all people to take the mark or not participate in a world wide economy. The kind of economy that Europe is getting this fall. A digital currency that can be traced and tracked. EVERY*SINGLE*TRANSACTION!

This means that if the Rapture is on the near horizon we should see some of this stuff starting to form. And we are.

Some Important Power Blocs are forming NOW - I already see Russia trying to gather her former USSR nations, some willingly, others not so much. It looks very much to me like the former Eastern leg of Rome is forming there, ready to be destroyed during Ezek 38. After Russia and her Gog Magog allies fall in Ezek 38, that leaves China and the East to regroup without their big Russian friends, so the SCO will be gutted for a while. They return at Armageddon according to Revelation- drying up the Euphrates so the Kings of the East can make their way to Israel and surround Jerusalem.

Europe is the other major bloc- they will be the nucleus around the future Rome 2.0. The Western leg of Rome. They will survive as the people of the Prince to come. If they were too attached to America they would be at risk of not developing back into a power base complete with currency and an army. Right now we see them forming into a technocracy which is simply put as the rule by unelected elites. When Russia and her allies fall in Ezek 38, this allows Europe to come to the fore as the dominant power. America is conspicuously absent- probably due to the Rapture or perhaps a growing tide of isolation.



I don't know when the NWO will take over America, but I think it's sooner than anyone is ready for. Technocracy is at the heart of what Musk is doing with DOGE. An unelected technocrat who volunteers to help is using AI to fire a lot of excess govt employees. That should raise concerns actually, even though it's a good thing to start with. It's something I don't even think anyone can prevent. It's the way things will go in future. More and more stuff ruled by AI and the technocracy.


I see the Technocracy that JB Hixson and the other guy talking about this (can't remember his name for the moment) moving faster and faster in Trumps' team - this is not a move towards limited govt. It is a move towards what Britt Gillette called more efficient govt, and that means a more oppressive govt at some time in the future when Trump is no longer in charge.

It LOOKS different than Europe at the moment. But it's the same end goals.

And I don't see a viable future for Canada in all this. Not at the rate Carney will work to destroy Canada. He is even more WEF than Trudeau was and that is saying something. And Chrystia Freeland. We can be as united and hopeful as possible but it won't change the end game.

Canada will not fight globalism under Carney. Carney and his WEF buddies just got a huge boost from Trump. They ARE the globalists! They are not for Canada, they are WEF globalists thru and thru! It's ironic that in his quest to MAGA, Trump accidentally pushed us over the edge back into Trudeau's Liberal party this time under Carney. Canada just lost. Rebel has been outlining how Carney is gaining even more control than Trudeau. The sad part is, most Canadians will vote for Carney thinking this is a vote for Canada- from Quebec, to Alberta and from coast to coast to our northern Arctic coast. Thinking we are voting for an independant Canada, we have walked right straight into the WEF trap.

I can hope for, pray for and vote for a different future, and we all need to do what we can, but I'm a realist, not an optimist and I believe the Bible's outline of the future. The WEF and their NWO pals are going to "win" for a short period of time. Their time is nearly here.

Satan knows his time is short, it's why all this stuff is coming into being now.

First the Rapture, then the AC arises, then the covenant with Israel is signed, kicking off the Tribulation, and 7 of the worst years on planet Earth happen

Then King Jesus ends their rule, smashing them into powder and HE rules for 1000 years, then puts an end to all evil and we go forward to a bright wonderful future.

THAT is the future I'm looking for. Not a MAGA version of Canada although that would be nice if there's time. I just don't think there is time for that.

My efforts need to go elsewhere, reaching those I can for the gospel, getting as many saved as possible.
 
Understood dear sister. I agree with most of what you laid out. Not meaning where i don't it is not biblical. We just have differing time lines. In short, the trajectory most likely, to me, is: America strengthens conservative. Canada strengthens conservatively. Isreal gets one state solution (the likeliest setup for ez 38 hostility). NWO tanks and crashes.

The above sounds extremely counterintuitive. i realize. But i state it in the event that Ez 38 overarches all. Which makes sense to me because most of evangelicalism don't use it. We use Revelation. If it is the Ez 38 path, we should not be surprised that the upper sentences come to pass. Since we see such an evil NWO now, we presume they will just get their chance soon. But under the ez 38 theme, the NWO, to me, is kind of insignificant. Where the church might see the star of the show is the NWO, i would see Isreal. So its just a place holder i post here. In the event it goes this way, when the NWO tanks, this would not mean prophesy is broken or needs its gears greased. It would just be giving center stage to Isreal for their big day. Though some prophesy watchers dabble in ez 38, only CBN-1 sees this path as a valid possibility. Blessings.
 
I'm not sure why anyone would use what they see as the Ezekiel 38 path when God made it absolutely clear that Revelation would tell us what is to come. In fact that is the only reason for that book--

"1This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soona come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near."
 
I'm not sure why anyone would use what they see as the Ezekiel 38 path when God made it absolutely clear that Revelation would tell us what is to come. In fact that is the only reason for that book--

"1This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soona come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near."
Blessing Pastor. I know this sounds maybe off. And in all honesty, I don't mean it as strong as it sounds. But for reasons that would otherwise take away from most healthy focus I believe brother--I refrain from an overt Rev 6 focus for the time being. So yes, I sound out there saying that...lol. But I don't mean it like an insane town crier. I just mean it in the sense I say it for literary effect. Not just poetic effect. But because I do see a somewhat loud contrast can be helpful.

There is one sound citatation I could use in this. That would be CBN-1 Christian broadcast. They are the only Christian publication or even podcast that has linked a potential of America becoming strong to build up Israel for their peace and safety. That's it. Just them. So I 'm not completely alone. lol. But yes, other than that there are a lot of crickets I think.

So I just say it for contrast effect in part to maybe have small talks like this along the way. Or get maybe a different way to look at it here or there. But what I don't mean dear family is that Rev 6 does not apply. Nor do I mean that it be something the church does not partake in warning against. So Ike the short cut version is this for example...in what I am saying:

The Abraham Accords

That is a pretty hot focus centralling as to what kind of dance we are having perhaps in end times. Now I am of the camp that believes end times is likely within 2 to 5 years. Some might see it further out. And they might be right. Amen. But my context in perspective is pretty much 2 to 5 years. So going with that, if that might be over the target at all, Abraham Accords means something likely. Does not have to. But since it came on the heels of Israel getting Jerusalem affirmed and Golan Heights, i'd say the Abraham Accords stand a pretty good chance of being...something.

To the general watcher evangelical world it typically takes the form of the covenant the AC affirms. And I am not one who believes that to not be the case. I actually think that is probably pretty accurate. But for me, it seems more of a timing issue than a perhaps what happens with Abraham Accords according to Rev 6 issue. So if we look at Abraham Accords solely or mostly as the covenant the AC strengthens, we are also looking for a peace and safety potential. At least those are the concepts I see thrown around.

So to me there is just one major concern with that. What if we get peace and safety before the AC event? And is there a biblical case for that? Potentially we could. And there might. Ez 38 comes with peace and safety that has nothing to do with the AC covenant. At least this side of the event. So if Israel gets peace and safety while we are still here, should we be expecting the AC at any moment? OR...is that the peace and safety that goes with Ez 38 for Isreal?

We can answer that question by seeing how the nation states fall into play along the way as Ez 38 theater forms around Israel. And we are seeing it. If we get Saudi normaliziation with Israel in the next year or 2, then there are a lot more pieces that seem to fall into place for Ez 38 theater. Now I know Andy Woods whom I respect immensly believes that the AC comes before Ez 38. I believe its the other way around. So one of us is off. Andy could be right. And in that case, yes then there really is not much of an Ez 38 path. Just a rapture and an AC path. But a balanced consideration of what are we actually looking at when peace and safety is on the table? A balanced perspective on that is not what I hear though...anywhere. So why is that though? Why can't there be two possibilities? We know in theory that works. But all of the peace and safety we hear is for AC covenant. And not for Ez 38. At least that I have heard. So maybe we are hearing different things. But I'm kind of old school in some things.

OLD SCHOOL
What I mean by this is if we have Ez 37 -- Isreal returns. Ez 38, not Rev 6, is the next chapter. So there is that. Plus what we can see forming in how the lay of the land looks. For me, Pasor, that is not to say that Rev 6 is not seeable by the church as that time approaches. It's just that if we are currently hitched to Ez 37. And Ez 38 typography is literally dancing into place around us, why is all the talk of peace and safety typically mostly about the AC strengthening covenant? To me, that is jump frogging a bit past Ez 38. Now of course, in God's mercy perhaps it is because the AC comes before Ez 38. And if that is the case then I am totally worth drowning out. Amen. I would even agree with that. But its just that no person alive knows absolutely whether Ez 38 comes first or not...yet we are right along side its very forming before us. So normally what that would do is give it "a" place. Maybe not "the" place. But "a" place in consideration. But it seems that instead all the focus trends toward AC peace and safety and not Ez 38. To such a great extent its almost, to me, kind of twlight zone-ish. Like, so what happened to what we all just saw with Isreal? So in light of things being at least somewhat more loud than not loud on the Ez 38 front, and no views but CBN-1 media mentions it, to me, that is too huge of a vacuum for it to be necessarily not be comprehensively balanced. And reasonable. Like a pinball machine tilt it seems almost. And to me, that suggests that the thing that is not, is probably more so than not, the thing that is. Or might be most salient.

You may not agree or see it this way, but am I seeing things? lol. I mean, does what I say not seem to have some relevance in notice though? Very blessed you asked...because it is a very genuine question brother. Blessing.s
 
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