Many Nations Ready To Supply Iran With Their Nuclear Warheads: Top Putin Aide

mattfivefour · Sunday at 3:18 PM

This latest news leads me to now see the situation in the world currently swiftly developing to a point that it is ready for a world leader who promises world peace, including to Israel.

1LoverofGod · Sunday at 3:24 PM

Iranian FM arrives in Moscow for talks on ‘regional and international developments’

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi arrives in Moscow for talks after a US attack on key nuclear facilities, state media reports on the 10th day of the war with Israel.

“Abbas Araghchi… arrived in Moscow to hold consultations with the [Russian] president and other senior officials of Russia regarding regional and international developments following the military aggression by the United States and the Zionist regime against Iran,” the official IRNA news agency says.

Iranian FM arrives in Moscow for talks on ‘regional and international developments’

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www.timesofisrael.com

mattfivefour · Sunday at 3:28 PM

To reiterate, in view of these latest developments I believe the world stage is now fully set and ready for the initial appearance of the Antichrist.

Margery · Sunday at 4:11 PM

Putin used Medvedev to comment. That is actually a really good indicator of how serious Russia is about supplying the nukes to Iran to use.

He uses Medvedev to say what he really thinks outside of the Foreign Office channels. He's often more blunt with things, when he uses Medvedev as a mouthpiece because Medvedev is a trusted ally within the Kremlin, while not being officially part of the food chain over there.

Medvedev can say things that need saying without the diplomatic repercussions of an "official" statement by the Kremlin.

This means Putin is deadly serious, and thinking about giving nukes to Iran to use. Doesn't mean he will. Putin likes to use threats to get to where he wants to go. Not empty threats, but he doesn't want to fully commit---- YET.

HOWEVER
Putin won't want Iran to use nukes on Israel, even now, because Israel is full of Russian Jews. Putin has shown in the past that he views them as still part of Russia.

Putin doesn't want to commit to all out war with the West, but due to NATO - he is starting to feel pushed that way. AND the latest NATO meeting is coming soon. And it's all about Ukraine, and the need to control Russia.

Work4Peanuts · Sunday at 6:57 PM

Margery said:
Putin used Medvedev to comment. That is actually a really good indicator of how serious Russia is about supplying the nukes to Iran to use.

He uses Medvedev to say what he really thinks outside of the Foreign Office channels. He's often more blunt with things, when he uses Medvedev as a mouthpiece because Medvedev is a trusted ally within the Kremlin, while not being officially part of the food chain over there.

Medvedev can say things that need saying without the diplomatic repercussions of an "official" statement by the Kremlin.

This means Putin is deadly serious, and thinking about giving nukes to Iran to use. Doesn't mean he will. Putin likes to use threats to get to where he wants to go. Not empty threats, but he doesn't want to fully commit---- YET.

HOWEVER
Putin won't want Iran to use nukes on Israel, even now, because Israel is full of Russian Jews. Putin has shown in the past that he views them as still part of Russia.

Putin doesn't want to commit to all out war with the West, but due to NATO - he is starting to feel pushed that way. AND the latest NATO meeting is coming soon. And it's all about Ukraine, and the need to control Russia.

I love reading your analysis when it comes to Russia. I read a different interesting take:

Dmitri Medvedev: A Number of Countries Ready to Gift Iran Nukes

Medvedev claims multiple countries may supply Iran with nuclear weapons, raising global security concerns.

hotair.com

I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Margery · Sunday at 10:41 PM

Work4Peanuts said:
I love reading your analysis when it comes to Russia. I read a different interesting take:

Dmitri Medvedev: A Number of Countries Ready to Gift Iran Nukes

Medvedev claims multiple countries may supply Iran with nuclear weapons, raising global security concerns.

hotair.com

I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

I read it. David Strom implies that Russia is all talk- and these "countries" that supposedly want to gift nukes might be all in the imagination. I agree with him to a point.

China is one that might be willing but I can't see them provoking the West like that at this point. I doubt Russia would. Pakistan wouldn't go out on a limb that far -- they know they are lucky enough to have nukes - and nobody has tried to take em away as long as they behave. India has nukes but values their relationship with the West. North Korea is not going to let go of their precious supply.

This comes down to Russia using Medvedev to get a point across to the West- We could give nukes to Iran if we want being the message. Russians tend to go to extremes - throwing what the west sees as a tantrum, bringing up the worst case possible eg nukes to make the West shut up and go away and quit poking them in the Ukraine. A very sensitive spot.

That part about the others who want to give nuclear gifts to Iran is just hot air. But not the nuke talk or using Medvedev to talk about them.

The critical context in all this messaging by Russia is NATO better not get any ideas in the NATO Summit. Russia is saying they are getting deeply uncomfortable. When they bring up nukes it isn't just hot air- they are saying they have limits.

And the NATO Summit is this Tuesday June 24- Wed June 25th. It's in the Hague in The Netherlands. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/21/trump-nato-defense-spending-00416118

Trump will be there.

The whole thing will be centred around the NATO nations spending on defence. EVERYONE is trying to meet their NATO target or give a reasonable reason why not. And it's all about the threat of Russia.

Russia knows this and is showing displeasure.

This summit, and the underlying efforts to increase NATO spending and commitments is Putin's nightmare. This is what he was afraid of, it's why he has been gathering what is left of the USSR into a working group, and it's why it bugged him so much that Ukraine was trying to be part of NATO.

Think of it as the battle lines being drawn between Russia and the West because that is what it is.

Unfortunately the west doesn't always understand what Russia is saying and vice versa. Russians are used to expressing their limits with explosions of rage and screaming about extreme things. Western people just see that as a loss of self control. Russia is messaging something important. The West sees it like David Strom sees it- by focusing on the details that don't actually make sense.

The point in Russian communication is the tantrum like explosion- not the actual details. The explosion is meant to transmit limits, boundaries.

The western observers don't always get the point.

Work4Peanuts · Sunday at 11:33 PM

Margery said:
I read it. David Strom implies that Russia is all talk- and these "countries" that supposedly want to gift nukes might be all in the imagination. I agree with him to a point.

China is one that might be willing but I can't see them provoking the West like that at this point. I doubt Russia would. Pakistan wouldn't go out on a limb that far -- they know they are lucky enough to have nukes - and nobody has tried to take em away as long as they behave. India has nukes but values their relationship with the West. North Korea is not going to let go of their precious supply.

This comes down to Russia using Medvedev to get a point across to the West- We could give nukes to Iran if we want being the message. Russians tend to go to extremes - throwing what the west sees as a tantrum, bringing up the worst case possible eg nukes to make the West shut up and go away and quit poking them in the Ukraine. A very sensitive spot.

That part about the others who want to give nuclear gifts to Iran is just hot air. But not the nuke talk or using Medvedev to talk about them.

The critical context in all this messaging by Russia is NATO better not get any ideas in the NATO Summit. Russia is saying they are getting deeply uncomfortable. When they bring up nukes it isn't just hot air- they are saying they have limits.

And the NATO Summit is this Tuesday June 24- Wed June 25th. It's in the Hague in The Netherlands. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/21/trump-nato-defense-spending-00416118

Trump will be there.

The whole thing will be centred around the NATO nations spending on defence. EVERYONE is trying to meet their NATO target or give a reasonable reason why not. And it's all about the threat of Russia.

Russia knows this and is showing displeasure.

This summit, and the underlying efforts to increase NATO spending and commitments is Putin's nightmare. This is what he was afraid of, it's why he has been gathering what is left of the USSR into a working group, and it's why it bugged him so much that Ukraine was trying to be part of NATO.

Think of it as the battle lines being drawn between Russia and the West because that is what it is.

Unfortunately the west doesn't always understand what Russia is saying and vice versa. Russians are used to expressing their limits with explosions of rage and screaming about extreme things. Western people just see that as a loss of self control. Russia is messaging something important. The West sees it like David Strom sees it- by focusing on the details that don't actually make sense.

The point in Russian communication is the tantrum like explosion- not the actual details. The explosion is meant to transmit limits, boundaries.

The western observers don't always get the point.

Thank you, that makes sense. I'm not surprised that Russia is feeling unhappy. Trump is slowly squeezing them, re: supplies, since China, Iran and Russia were building each other up with money, oil, and munitions. This move on Iran is definitely also a statement that Trump will carry through when he says he will, and Putin better think about testing the US with regard to Ukraine.

Sending bombers to Guam seems to me also to be more than a feint, or distraction for Iran, although it certainly was that, too. China was in the Middle East watching how Trump handled this whole affair. Guam would have been a direct message to China not to mess with Taiwan while we were "distracted" with dealing with Iran. I haven't heard that the bombers sent to Guam have been recalled home. The Chinese definitely would have heard that message. They also now know just exactly how tied to the US they are economically after the whole tariff affair. The order that Trump has tackled his "to do" list is just masterful.

This is just my opinion, but I can see this whole thing blowing over with a lot of hard feelings simmering under the surface, because the US is strong under Trump. I think Trump is going to bankrupt anyone who tests him. China has backed off. It sounds like from your analysis that Russia is going to be more stubborn. I believe that we have just seen the "hook" set for that future war. I think that Russia is about to lose a lot of money going against Trump and digging in their heels. When the US gets weaker again (rapture? I hope!) the absence of power will cause the peace that is forced on the world to tumble and fall apart. Then Russia, who ordinarily wouldn't go against Israel, will see an attack as a viable option, both as a chance to get back at one part of the alliance that brought them low, while everyone who is surprised at the attack will be wondering if they were looking for plunder, because they have lost so much economically.

Margery · Monday at 12:19 AM

Work4Peanuts said:
...This move on Iran is definitely also a statement that Trump will carry through when he says he will, and Putin better think about testing the US with regard to Ukraine.

I agree. Trump is finally back to being the guy that follows thru just as he did in his first term, bombing Syrian planes that had carried out that chemical attack on children. In between dinner and dessert with Xi.

I agree with your whole line of thought.

Work4Peanuts said:
Sending bombers to Guam seems to me also to be more than a feint, or distraction for Iran, although it certainly was that, too. China was in the Middle East watching how Trump handled this whole affair. Guam would have been a direct message to China not to mess with Taiwan while we were "distracted" with dealing with Iran.

100% YES! I notice the Americans are opening up old bases in the Pacific - at least from one headline I saw today that I didn't get into. I wanted to ask you about something - regards China. I get mixed signals from the China watchers on several key points: the population numbers being drastically lower than the official figures. The possible coup or severe weakening of Xi's power base, leading to Zhang Youxia picking up power again, possibly being the power broker within the CCP elders. Military expansion- Xi putting a lot more of the economy towards a buildup of military hardware. What do you see if you are comfortable with talking about that. If you can't I fully understand. Family might be at risk. Something a Russian family knows. It's not always about living in freedom in the West. You have to take into account how family might be treated. Just tell me if I'm out to lunch on those things happening in China that aren't being picked up by Western media but the China watchers are commenting. Is it just crazy talk or is it largely correct?

Work4Peanuts said:
I can see this whole thing blowing over with a lot of hard feelings simmering under the surface, because the US is strong under Trump. I think Trump is going to bankrupt anyone who tests him. China has backed off. It sounds like from your analysis that Russia is going to be more stubborn. I believe that we have just seen the "hook" set for that future war. I think that Russia is about to lose a lot of money going against Trump and digging in their heels. When the US gets weaker again (rapture? I hope!) the absence of power will cause the peace that is forced on the world to tumble and fall apart. Then Russia, who ordinarily wouldn't go against Israel, will see an attack as a viable option, both as a chance to get back at one part of the alliance that brought them low, while everyone who is surprised at the attack will be wondering if they were looking for plunder, because they have lost so much economically.

YOU NAILED IT!!!

Work4Peanuts · Monday at 12:53 AM

Margery said:
I agree. Trump is finally back to being the guy that follows thru just as he did in his first term, bombing Syrian planes that had carried out that chemical attack on children. In between dinner and dessert with Xi.

I agree with your whole line of thought.

100% YES! I notice the Americans are opening up old bases in the Pacific - at least from one headline I saw today that I didn't get into. I wanted to ask you about something - regards China. I get mixed signals from the China watchers on several key points: the population numbers being drastically lower than the official figures. The possible coup or severe weakening of Xi's power base, leading to Zhang Youxia picking up power again, possibly being the power broker within the CCP elders. Military expansion- Xi putting a lot more of the economy towards a buildup of military hardware. What do you see if you are comfortable with talking about that. If you can't I fully understand. Family might be at risk. Something a Russian family knows. It's not always about living in freedom in the West. You have to take into account how family might be treated. Just tell me if I'm out to lunch on those things happening in China that aren't being picked up by Western media but the China watchers are commenting. Is it just crazy talk or is it largely correct?

YOU NAILED IT!!!

Hubs thinks that Zhang is Xi's man. I can't really comment on his situation, but the Chinese tend to "groom" the population to know who they are supposed to vote for, and there are changes in leadership from time to time to uphold the illusion of democracy, so he may just be next on the list.

China would be willing to play the long game. They are absolutely working against the US, but will use their assets in the US internally, undermining our government by fomenting unrest on our own streets. The old commie playbook. They'll be happy to watch our own population topple our government, helping dems to rig elections, swaying the youth with propaganda, helping to pay for riots, and supporting candidates that will be beholden to them through dark money. Then when the US falls, they want to step into the vacuum as the world power.

As far as population, there are still a lot of Chinese in China. For a while, when restrictions loosened up, families were having more than one child despite the one child policy. It became a bit of status symbol, because China wasn't doing the forced sterilizations and was just fining the parents for each extra kid. Those children were not "official": didn't have a hukou, which was essentially permission to live somewhere. A hukou gives you access to public services, so no schooling or official standing within society if you don't have one. If you were wealthy enough to pay the fine, send your kids to private schools, and bribe officials to get things done, then having extra children showed that you were higher in society, but they might not be included in the population numbers, since they aren't official.

This latest generation, though, has not been getting married and having children, and certainly not in the numbers to replace population. They've embraced all the worst of western values (homosexuality, shacking up...) so that is probably going to start affecting population numbers, but I think, not quite yet.

ETA: a lot of the population that China has is actually in the US, mostly at universities, so it might look like there are fewer Chinese at home.

Margery · Monday at 2:36 PM

Work4Peanuts said:
the Chinese tend to "groom" the population to know who they are supposed to vote for, and there are changes in leadership from time to time to uphold the illusion of democracy, so he may just be next on the list.

China would be willing to play the long game.

That makes perfect sense.

Work4Peanuts said:
ETA: a lot of the population that China has is actually in the US, mostly at universities, so it might look like there are fewer Chinese at home.

Never thought of that, and you are absolutely right!

Thanks @Work4Peanuts - I knew you'd have a good perspective on these matters.

1LoverofGod · Monday at 7:17 PM

Trump Threatens Russia After Nukes Enter the Conversation

Dmitry Medvedev reportedly announced that multiple countries were willing to give Iran nukes, which prompted Trump to warn both Russia and Iran against provoking the United States, bragging about U.S. nuclear submarines and the top-notch military “hardware” that we used to destroy Iranian nuclear sites and that could be used again.

It is, of course, a question whether Russia might not already have enabled Iran to achieve nuclear capabilities, which Israel and the United States destroyed last week. But speculation aside, even Russia should think twice before getting involved on Iran’s behalf.

Medvedev shockingly added, according to Fox News, “A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads.” This stunningly open and dangerous promise infuriated Trump, who quickly responded.

Trump delivered a somewhat humorous and wholly aggressive response to Russia’s big talk on Truth Social. “Did I hear Former President Medvedev, from Russia, casually throwing around the ‘N word’ (Nuclear!), and saying that he and other Countries would supply Nuclear Warheads to Iran?” Trump demanded.

Trump then switched to boasting about America’s military capabilities, in what was obviously a veiled threat and warning to dictatorial regimes that might grow arrogant enough to poke the sleeping giant of the United States. “By the way, if anyone thinks our ‘hardware’ was great over the weekend, far and away the strongest and best equipment we have, 20 years advanced over the pack, is our Nuclear Submarines,” Trump stated.

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Many Nations Ready To Supply Iran With Their Nuclear Warheads: Top Putin Aide

Mr Araghchi has said that he will have 'serious consultations' with the Russian leader, hours after the United States entered the Iran-Israel conflict by striking three key Iranian nuclear sites last night.