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Great News: Trump’s EPA Ending Animal Testing Nightmare and Will Be Putting Retired Lab Animals Up for Adoption

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Great News: Trump’s EPA Ending Animal Testing Nightmare and Will Be Putting Retired Lab Animals Up for Adoption​


Trump’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has not just committed to phasing out cruel and outdated animal testing, but it has now also approved a program for putting the retired laboratory animals up for adoption, following months of discussion with the non-profit White Coat Waste.​

The adoption plan was unearthed in internal EPA documents by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) and confirmed to White Coat Waste, the taxpayer watchdog that’s been relentless in exposing and dismantling government-funded animal torture.

 
Why are they still being allowed to test and kill these animals for the next ten years? Why not stop it right now?
Good point. One reason I believe would be evolving uniformity to cement the change systemically. If we force change in systems in use to different approaches by removing animals for testing giving time for systems to evolve by force to change over a period of time, it would address the quick fix mentality of grabbing animals for experiments. So it would make sense to change how we approach things over time in order to make the industry standards uniform by virtue of paving over animal testing "culture" with a better vein of experimentation in labs.

Of course the danger in phasing this out might be a pipe dream of permitting animal testing to continue indefinitely. In one sense Pastor, it is almost seemingly political cover for mRNA vaccinating chickens. Like, "But look over here I am for not torturing animals." A way to surround society with political speak wagons to rewire how we think about "animals in science." And come to conclude: Animal Testing = Bad. Animal Vaccine = Good...like cavemen? lol Saying it with a club in one hand while dragging our famale mate's hair in the other and feeling socially evolved in wearing the Vaccine Good/Torture Bad -- T-shirt? lol

It is nice to see we have come to a day and age where we care about animals not being tested. It has been "a thing" for years. PETA etc. And then there are PETA terrorists and that whole side of the equation. And how it plays into not using animals for anything. While in my teens I used to listen to KLOS FM Radio. And there was a show that would come on Sunday nights. And I felt like I understood intimate things because it was thought provoking stuff. But at the end of the day, I remember thinking Military and War is evil and mankind are warpigs. So it kind of made animals the hero in that scenario. Like they should have more rights than humans actually because mankind is just evil. And we well know we are. But the solutions the world has for that, without Christ, will be evil too.

So yeah, I guess if its real that we phase out animal torture experiments...it is a good thing. Perhaps not stopping it now is understood as removing an economy from slave labor. If we just switched over night, there would be significantly monetary fallout. And economic havoc for a season. Maybe suicide rate increase as well as destroying industries that could have been preserved. But, yeah it would not make slavery ethical. The approach is somewhat understandable. To take 10 years. But good point why not sooner, or even now, amen.
 
r, it is almost seemingly political cover for mRNA vaccinating chickens.
I’m not sure that we are vaccinating chickens.

I did a quick search for news on it and found this:

USDA exploring possibility of mass vaccinations for American poultry despite RFK Jr.'s warnings​

JOSEPH MACKINNON
JUNE 26, 2025

American domestic flocks might soon be getting the jab, despite concerns about unintended consequences.



Nicolas Hulscher, an epidemiologist and administrator at the McCullough Foundation, has suggested mass poultry vaccinations are unwise, telling Blaze News that Kennedy's "worries about mass animal H5N1 bird flu vaccination are fully grounded in robust science."

 
I’m not sure that we are vaccinating chickens.

I did a quick search for news on it and found this:

USDA exploring possibility of mass vaccinations for American poultry despite RFK Jr.'s warnings​

JOSEPH MACKINNON
JUNE 26, 2025

American domestic flocks might soon be getting the jab, despite concerns about unintended consequences.​

…​

Nicolas Hulscher, an epidemiologist and administrator at the McCullough Foundation, has suggested mass poultry vaccinations are unwise, telling Blaze News that Kennedy's "worries about mass animal H5N1 bird flu vaccination are fully grounded in robust science."

Thanks Hollie. Wow. One can hope. The way I have understood Trump over the years is that he is very much a product of his times. And although he is definitely a cut above the Hunger Games like governing entities, he is still Trump. A product of his time. Maybe a "super" product of his time. Meaning as much as he is what he is outside of his time in person and insight and ability, perhaps he is as much THAT also even as he is a product of his time too. And if so, then we know there are some fascinations with technology, AI, and what can actually be done scientifically. We know there are potentials extraordinaire looming on the horizon. Things that could be very powerfully helpful (like Elon's brain chip that does good but we know could be used for all manner of evil). So it is true that beyond greed and medical manipulation, there are good things that come from medicine (living much longer these days is proof of that EVEN in contrast with our known food toxins for decades now).

So yeah i would just say that Trump and vaccines are a bad combination...lol. He does not belong there. And hopefully he will listen to RFK and also consider eating chicken that is not fueled with psycho medicine. So on the real, I think Trump is hopeful for an mRNA solve for rescuing poultry from globalist taunts of burning down poultry farms if they can sneak one chicken into the flock with the flu. But God protect us temporarily by being able to do it without vaccinating chickens. Amen. I am hopeful for that. But as chess game smart as i believe Trump is, i think the vaccine is a huge blind spot for him. So much so, he might be ok with us eating it...lol. I hope that weak neanderthal brain spot of Trump is by the grace of God bypassed. Amen.

On a similar up note Hollie, I was thinking to post this in its own thread, but there is some jargon in it that would make that weird. But i think overall this is an interesting stop along the way. I remember a time when evangelical prophesy watchers laughed at the idea of ever coming back from COVID. And with an eye toward how America does not seem to be in prophecy, certainly dig their heels in the sand over America ever becoming more powerful again. But instead, prophetically fall to the background. Instead, we see the opposite. Amen. It would appear the blind spot being how much God has used America for decades now (in plain sight) to advance Israel on the scene. And so the story goes. I salute the right of a holy God to prove that side of the prophesy watching wing, incorrect (notice i don't use the same language they might, "false"). Because it is human to error. And i hope my error about the chickens is in full check here. Blessings.


15 minute video attesting to the American come back. On steroids. I remember the chiding to "You will get sick of winning." Now i think we are just dead set against it...lol.
 
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I think Trump is hopeful for an mRNA solve for rescuing poultry
I think Trump is unpolished politically and his many flaws are glaring at times—but, supporting mRNA is not one of them. Have you heard of Dr. Scott Atlas? He’s a public health expert that Trump brought in as Fauci & Debra Birks were in the driver’s seat as Covid hit. Guess who slandered and chased Scott Atlas out??, Birks & Fauci. A close colleague at Stanford U to Dr. Atlas is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, and here’s a little bit on him from:

“A few years ago Jay Bhattacharya was an obscure Stanford professor—a medical doctor who also had a PhD in economics. Then Covid hit, the lockdowns began, and “Doctor Jay”—as he is sometimes known—became a pariah in the medical community.

That’s because, along with colleagues from Harvard and Oxford, Jay questioned whether the lockdowns were a good idea. They did this in an open letter called the Great Barrington Declaration. And this idea, in the madness of that period, was considered so dangerous by federal health authorities and Big Tech that Jay was not only smeared, but censored. His work—from Reddit to Twitter to Facebook—was suppressed.

But here’s the thing: The lockdowns were pretty disastrous. We’re still dealing with their effects—and it’s still unclear if they were worth it.

The powers that be tried to shut Jay up, yet he persisted. And after surviving that ordeal, he is now the new head of the National Institutes of Health. If you’re skeptical of karma, this turn of events may lead you to believe in it.

He’s leading this massive federal agency—the crown jewel of American science, the largest public funder of medical research—at a moment when public health authorities need to rebuild trust.

But here’s the wrinkle. Jay has two bosses: President Trump, who initiated Operation Warp Speed to develop a Covid vaccine in his first term, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the Health and Human Services Secretary who is also the most famous vaccine skeptic in America.”

Anyhow, Trump has not promoted one pro-mNRA to serve in his Admin. Many of us would love an apology from Trump for warp speed. He’s not that humble.

If JB Hixson and others like JD, seriously want to pin lots of things on Pres. Trump, even him loving mRNA, then they should admit that there is no evidence for that conspiracy theory. They’re not that humble.
 
I think Trump is unpolished politically and his many flaws are glaring at times—but, supporting mRNA is not one of them. Have you heard of Dr. Scott Atlas? He’s a public health expert that Trump brought in as Fauci & Debra Birks were in the driver’s seat as Covid hit. Guess who slandered and chased Scott Atlas out??, Birks & Fauci. A close colleague at Stanford U to Dr. Atlas is Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, and here’s a little bit on him from:

“A few years ago Jay Bhattacharya was an obscure Stanford professor—a medical doctor who also had a PhD in economics. Then Covid hit, the lockdowns began, and “Doctor Jay”—as he is sometimes known—became a pariah in the medical community.

That’s because, along with colleagues from Harvard and Oxford, Jay questioned whether the lockdowns were a good idea. They did this in an open letter called the Great Barrington Declaration. And this idea, in the madness of that period, was considered so dangerous by federal health authorities and Big Tech that Jay was not only smeared, but censored. His work—from Reddit to Twitter to Facebook—was suppressed.

But here’s the thing: The lockdowns were pretty disastrous. We’re still dealing with their effects—and it’s still unclear if they were worth it.

The powers that be tried to shut Jay up, yet he persisted. And after surviving that ordeal, he is now the new head of the National Institutes of Health. If you’re skeptical of karma, this turn of events may lead you to believe in it.

He’s leading this massive federal agency—the crown jewel of American science, the largest public funder of medical research—at a moment when public health authorities need to rebuild trust.

But here’s the wrinkle. Jay has two bosses: President Trump, who initiated Operation Warp Speed to develop a Covid vaccine in his first term, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the Health and Human Services Secretary who is also the most famous vaccine skeptic in America.”

Anyhow, Trump has not promoted one pro-mNRA to serve in his Admin. Many of us would love an apology from Trump for warp speed. He’s not that humble.

If JB Hixson and others like JD, seriously want to pin lots of things on Pres. Trump, even him loving mRNA, then they should admit that there is no evidence for that conspiracy theory. They’re not that humble.
Thanks Hollie. Appreciate the heart and details. At the end of the day, the forum has been briefed on my views of Trump. Unless I come right out and say it, that won't change. But quite often I am tempted to. In general that Trump is a massive force for good exponentially, historically, and beyond measure. But with that I hold a gun to every lofty speculation I might have in that arena. Because it could lead me to being nuts. lol. So because I have such strong views on Trump (more than any forum either way I have been on over the past 7 years), I don't just go with the flow of my ideas. I put them through a minefield. Because a lot of the things I look at don't really have high end discussions on...so often I am left with crickets to contrast. That might be because these things are hard to see (like your beautiful heart in Him doth so wonderfully show dear saint). But it also might indicate there are crickets because only madmen go into those rooms. There is supposed to be crickets...lol.

So having said all that, I do still hugely believe Trump with massive flaws is generically a force for unprecidented good (aside from biblical miracles and the cross). But I really appreciate your research. It is really needed dear sister. These are very important details. And I hug your awesome heart in forth bringing them, amen. The way I understand warp speed is this: Trump knew COVID (or something like it was coming). He also knew that if the whole country is wired for HG Wells, The War of The Worlds radio theater, he needed to operate within the sphere of sobriety before the public...while being himself...and while also challenging the narrative. A very difficult window to dress and make salient sense on any real political level. The way I see it was that was planned for its timing. Had Hillary been in office we would have shut down the world and the Great reset would already be history in the making. And if delusion could have spread that big, most countries would still be shut down today, I believe. That was the global reset. But we missed it.

So yes, when pastors like JD gang up against Trump, what I believe they miss is that the world just missed a global shutdown/global reset. And the way we avoided it was to throw blood in the shark infested waters. And have the elite's greed confuse their prize moment. And it seemed to work. So I believe the vax was a way to open everything up and avoid the Great reset (waring power factions over the reset vs big pharma etc.). Which we did. Amen. But of course it comes with a price. Trump was all about remedy, not vax before. Because there was so much downplay of what could work. Like Ivermectim, hydroxychloroquine etc. In fact he even mocked in Trump fashion the remedy thing the media was lying to us all about--like helping media make fun of him.

From there I think Trump having ego probably believed in science a bit more than he should to think not realize to what degree the vax was bunk and dangerous. Almost caught up in his own thoughts of himself as hero. Which in ways he was. Did we want global shutdown for a decade? Or did we want a greedy vax that bought us time? Those were the chips. And the price paid is kind of on America too, allowing our country to be so grotesque. And outsourcing everything to "experts." We kind of lost our soul along the way. We kind of let it happen to us voluntarily in ways. And in ways we ourselves are to blame for what political body we have (as well as what skeevy watcher worlds we permit to some degrees in some ways). So to get that heart and soul back, we kind of have to care more together, is how I see it.

. . . . .

But on the mRNA thing, from what I understand about the chicken bird flu vax, well Trump has not authorized a vax, but he has authorized the path to one though? No?


Blessings :)
 
And outsourcing everything to "experts." We kind of lost our soul along the way. We kind of let it happen to us voluntarily in ways. And in ways we ourselves are to blame for what political body we have (as well as what skeevy watcher worlds we permit to some degrees in some ways). So to get that heart and soul back, we kind of have to care more together, is how I see it.
This is where I land and where we need to focus on what happened with Covid and the vax, nicely worded Teren! We don’t know if President Trump is a believer so he’s not a key figure in what I need to learn from our failure. The church body, especially in western countries, has been asleep at the wheel. We know the world has merely tasted the coming beast system. Where should the current church be focusing our warning message? If we send up red flags for each conspiracy we’ll fail.

But on the mRNA thing, from what I understand about the chicken bird flu vax, well Trump has not authorized a vax, but he has authorized the path to one though? No?
The problem is that Trump’s Sec. of Agriculture, Rollins, comes at her job with industrial ag in view (think pro Tyson chickens). She has to work with Bobby Kennedy and he put a stop to her mass vax plans, so far :pray:

You are a blessing brother :thankyou:
 
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