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Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signs over-the-counter ivermectin sales bill into law

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LITTLE ROCK, Ark. – Legislation approving ivermectin for human use without a prescription has been signed into law.

Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed Senate Bill 189 into law Tuesday.

The legislation states that, “ivermectin suitable for human use may be sold or purchased as an over-the-counter medication in this state without a prescription or consultation with a healthcare professional.”
 
WHEEE, Ivermectin for all, without the gatekeepers of medicine!

Sorry, got a little too excited there.

Deep breath, be Canadian, be unemotional, be strong

AHHHHHHH
forget about it

back to the cartwheels of joy! :bliss:

YAY, people can finally access a perfectly good treatment (with less than the usual side effects) for um that certain disease that 2020 and Dr Fauci brought to us gift wrapped by the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
 
I was prescribed ivermectin when I had Covid and I’m not sure how much it helped me. There’s no way to know, since I don’t know how much worse I would have been without it. I was very sick for 2 1/2 weeks, could not bathe for 13 days. I don’t know. But I’m glad it will be easier for people to give it a try.
 
I also took hydroxychloraquine by the way.
I just didn’t see the “recovered in 3 days” that others experienced. I was profoundly nauseated the entire time and I still don’t know if that was from Covid or side effect from the drugs. Lost 18 lbs and ended up 8 lbs below the “underweight” number for my height.
(The nausea started on day 1 so I’m thinking it was the Covid)
 
I also took hydroxychloraquine by the way.
I just didn’t see the “recovered in 3 days” that others experienced. I was profoundly nauseated the entire time and I still don’t know if that was from Covid or side effect from the drugs. Lost 18 lbs and ended up 8 lbs below the “underweight” number for my height.
(The nausea started on day 1 so I’m thinking it was the Covid)
I actually think you are the norm, and that is the pattern of a "good" recovery from Covid for most people.

Sadly the whole thing with Covid turned into an either or discussion with passionate overstatement on either side. Th vax would cure everyone, the disease would totally decimate the entire population and then on the other side Vit D, Ivermectin and Hydroxyclorquine would CURE people.

That was so not true. The vax didn't cure, it didn't help much, and in the end I think it caused more harm than good. Ripples of that still echo thru the cancer stats, sudden death stats, spikes in auto immune diseases all of which act like gasoline was poured onto their smouldering flames in people's bodies.

The original disease which was launched to either decimate the population and cause the rest to act like a herd of frightened sheep, didn't kill off the numbers it was designed for. They crossed an original strain of the SARS virus that hit Toronto with Ebola (that was supposed to hit Texas) and mixed in some HIV Aids to make sure it was deadly. It should have been effective - and it was moderately effective but God stemmed the tide of that plague. NOT TIME FOR IT YET. Not in the way it was planned.

And then the hype surrounding all the meds used to treat the disease from the natural remedies (Vit D, Zinc, Quercetin - which behaves like hydroxychloraquine along with the zinc in plugging up the pathways into the cell for the virus) or things like ivermectin, mouthwash, Pepcid AC and Reactine together - which block a certain inflammatory pathway. Even prednisone which was used in Canada and India as a cheap fast way to block the inflammation that kills.

And of course the expensive anti virals and meds from big Pharma and respirators which big hospitals with big financial pockets were able to use.

None worked as well as hyped.

It is still a horrible disease,
the way it attacks, the severe nature of it, and the way it damages the immune system that is fighting it off. People who say it's just a cold, obviously have a very robust immune system and those who died of it or are permanently disabled by it are not heard in the conversation anymore.

Bottom line that nausea you felt on day 1 absolutely was Covid, it's one of the big symptoms- it occurs because the virus replicates first in the back of the nose and throat, but quickly passes to the GI tract where the rest of the susceptible cells lie. They all have ACE 2 receptors- the respiratory tract and the GI tract are lined with these. (that's why Reactine and Pepcid AC were helpful as they blocked the ACE 2 receptor pathways)

The 10 to 20 lb weight loss is "normal" for Covid and more in line with a life threatening disease (like severe food poisoning for example or a really bad true influenza that lands people in hospital with pneumonia and a brush with death)

I think the "recovered in 3 days" kind of messaging was a childish reaction to the fear of death and the desire to "prove" that Covid was nothing. For those who felt like it was nothing or a bad cold, great, bully for you, you were blessed with an extra good immune system. Instead of putting down those who have a different story to tell remember that our immune systems are another gift from God, not something to be taken for granted, and the less blessed in that regard are telling the truth.

IT IS STILL rolling thru the population even though we don't track it anymore. It will till the end of the Tribulation when Jesus comes back to fix this broken world.

YOU ARE THE NORM, and the silly people on both sides of the debate aren't listening to the truth in the middle.

What I wish is that actual cheap remedies would be better explained in the media, and people would use them to the max, AND also get medical help. Because Prednisone for example (has side effects, nasty ones but it's relatively safe and cheap) really does turn things around for most people.
 
mouthwash
You had posted about the mouthwash back then and I told my husband about it. When we got sick we started gargling with it right away. I kept gargling until I was unable to stand up in the bathroom. The Covid never did get into our lungs so I do wonder if that did indeed help us.

I don’t understand why no one mentions the Monoclonal Antibodies anymore - brand name was “Regeneron.” My husband received that (limited) treatment right away because he qualified and I was able to drive him because he came down with it several days before I did. He experienced astounding results from that treatment - literally feeling much better the next day - went thru several more fever cycles and then was up walking around on the third day.
I don’t understand why this treatment didn’t become the gold standard.
One caveat was that it had to be given immediately - like on day 1 or 2 I think.
 
Pepcid AC and Reactine together
Now I’m ticked off that the doctor gave me those off-label drugs plus a Z-pack that I didn’t even need because it wasn’t in my lungs- yet didn’t even tell me about Pepcid when I had told her I just had an upper gastric scope done just a few days earlier for severe GERD effects. Would have helped me with both things.
 
Now I’m ticked off that the doctor gave me those off-label drugs plus a Z-pack that I didn’t even need because it wasn’t in my lungs- yet didn’t even tell me about Pepcid when I had told her I just had an upper gastric scope done just a few days earlier for severe GERD effects. Would have helped me with both things.
I'm going to post the protocols I use

I keep a pack of Pepcid AC- the kind you take every 12 hours, maximum strength and a pack of Reactine the maximum type every 24 hours. (cheapest at Costco)

One unopened fresh pack of each. I go thru Reactine regularly for my allergies but I note the expiry on the Pepcid AC.

I don't buy generics of those, nor do I buy other drugs in the acid reducer or allergy pills because not all of those class drugs are ACE 2 inhibitors. The Reactine, and the Pepcid AC are ACE 2 inhibitors.

The protocol I follow is to take both as the pack recommends- Pepcid every 12 hours, Reactine every 24 hours, maximum dose at the first sign of trouble if I think I'm starting a really bad feeling cold or flu.

The symptoms for Covid remain extreme fatigue, nausea, sometimes diarrhea, sore throat, pneumonia type symptoms, cold going quickly from the nose/throat to the lungs and fever and chills. The later versions of Covid started to lose the nausea symptom but that nausea and the diarrhea that came with are because of the sudden output of mucous and other fluid from the dying ACE 2 Receptor cells lining the GI tract.

If any of that nonsense starts up, I start taking those to plug up my ACE 2 Receptors in my GI tract and Respiratory tract and then this next thing. BIG BLUE!

I continue to also have a bottle of blue Listerine, the alcohol and the herbal mixture they use is proven effective at stopping viral replication in the back of the throat. Gargle 4 x a day or even oftener. I start when I feel like I'm coming down with something, and continue till I feel considerably better. That stuff tastes foul but it does help. G and I used it whenever the granddaughters seemed to be extra germy. I still do. Prevents colds too. Because the way that works is it kills off the viruses that are replicating in the nose and throat when you gargle. Reduce the viral load and you give your immune system a running chance to fight it off.

I continue the Reactine and Pepcid AC combo though for at least 2 weeks or till symptoms subside, and if at any point things get bad, I go see a dr in emergency and tell them my concerns.

It doesn't have to be Covid, if I feel a chest infection coming on, going down into the lungs, I don't wait till I'm gasping for air, I get down to emerg where they can prescribe a weeks worth of Prednisone to stop the problem. I have asthma and Prednisone is necessary when I catch a cold- it just goes straight to my lungs.

Something I've bought, but haven't used yet is Ivermectin horse paste - @Kem was talking about it. She takes a pea sized amount if she feels something coming on, and she says it works. I bought it from Amazon Canada. Didn't even have to smuggle it over the border. The American Amazon has lots for sale, but I think it's far more accepted down there. Up here not so much.

If I think it's a bad virus, I don't care if it is Covid or not, but a bad bout of anything respiratory I plan to try out the Ivermectin horse paste in addition to the other stuff above.

As always, your mileage may vary, I'm not prescribing anything, nor am I giving medical advice, I'm just explaining what I do, and why. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
 
I need to say that I am no longer using the horse paste "ivermectin" at least from Amazon. At this point I am pretty sick and the last two batches of paste tasted entirely different and it seems likely the formula has been changed. In any case, it no longer worked. OTC would be so welcome and I surely hope our governor will soon allow OTC Ivermectin. Zyrtec ordered from Amazon just now and I may dispatch my long-suffering son today to get me some blue Listerine from the pharmacy but they often have only the green mint kind.
 
I need to say that I am no longer using the horse paste "ivermectin" at least from Amazon. At this point I am pretty sick and the last two batches of paste tasted entirely different and it seems likely the formula has been changed. In any case, it no longer worked. OTC would be so welcome and I surely hope our governor will soon allow OTC Ivermectin. Zyrtec ordered from Amazon just now and I may dispatch my long-suffering son today to get me some blue Listerine from the pharmacy but they often have only the green mint kind.
Green mint is fine Kem, don't worry. Same alcohol and foul tasting herbal mixture but with a clean minty freshness.

The Blue one was involved in the clinical trials that proved it worked on certain respiratory tract viruses, about a decade or so before Covid hit. Any virus that replicates there should be susceptible, and areas that used mouthwash (not just Listerine) against Covid showed similar results.

I only specified the Blue one because it had clinical proof but as long as the mouthwash has the alcohol and the same proprietary blend of disgusting tasting herbs, ie all the Listerines that come with alcohol- you would be fine. IT's essentially the same thing.

As for the Reactine/Zyrtec the active pharmaceutical name is Cetirizine Hydrochloride 10 mg and the type is the once every 24 hours. The only reason I go brand name, is because I don't want to take chances on a generic brand but they should ALSO be ok, because it is the Cetirizine that is the active principle that acts as an ACE 2 inhibitor.

I DID just buy the Costco Kirkland generic version of Reactine/Zyrtec, it's 1/10 the price- and I'll be trying it out on my allergies when my bottle of Reactine is done, but I'll be keeping a close eye that it works the same on my allergies, and if it does, I will switch to the generic.
 
I need to say that I am no longer using the horse paste "ivermectin" at least from Amazon. At this point I am pretty sick and the last two batches of paste tasted entirely different and it seems likely the formula has been changed. In any case, it no longer worked. OTC would be so welcome and I surely hope our governor will soon allow OTC Ivermectin. Zyrtec ordered from Amazon just now and I may dispatch my long-suffering son today to get me some blue Listerine from the pharmacy but they often have only the green mint kind.
My Aunt was using the horse paste also, every time she started to come down with something and swore by it, and is now very sick with the flu. She owns horses and got her paste from a vet I believe.
 
Green mint is fine Kem, don't worry. Same alcohol and foul tasting herbal mixture but with a clean minty freshness.

The Blue one was involved in the clinical trials that proved it worked on certain respiratory tract viruses, about a decade or so before Covid hit. Any virus that replicates there should be susceptible, and areas that used mouthwash (not just Listerine) against Covid showed similar results.

I only specified the Blue one because it had clinical proof but as long as the mouthwash has the alcohol and the same proprietary blend of disgusting tasting herbs, ie all the Listerines that come with alcohol- you would be fine. IT's essentially the same thing.

As for the Reactine/Zyrtec the active pharmaceutical name is Cetirizine Hydrochloride 10 mg and the type is the once every 24 hours. The only reason I go brand name, is because I don't want to take chances on a generic brand but they should ALSO be ok, because it is the Cetirizine that is the active principle that acts as an ACE 2 inhibitor.

I DID just buy the Costco Kirkland generic version of Reactine/Zyrtec, it's 1/10 the price- and I'll be trying it out on my allergies when my bottle of Reactine is done, but I'll be keeping a close eye that it works the same on my allergies, and if it does, I will switch to the generic.
Would vodka work?
 
Yes, it should. But that is getting a bit theoretical because the alcohol content varies, and the mixture of herbs might be creating additional benefit. Just drinking vodka neat won't keep the alcohol in contact long enough, because the gargling action with the mouthwash means it's in contact longer, and gargling keeps a mechanical action like a dishwasher does with the dishes if that visual helps.
 
I wanted to try vodka for housecleaning because I heard it’s great on glass & stuff and kills germs too. Right now I use rubbing alcohol to clean the bathroom which works great but worry a bit about touching it so much.
Disclaimer: Only booze I have in this house is a very old bottle of rum that I use for rum cakes at Christmas. I do not drink although used to have a beer once in a while.
 
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