Electoral College - Houston, Do We Have a Problem?

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Something I always think about is, what are they pulling our focus away from, towards the shiny bright "ufo" in the corner? What are they hoping to distract our attention from?

I'm next level tin foil hat like that

There's just a lot of smoke and mirrors with media lately. I get suspicious when the magician aims my attention in one area and I start looking all around to see what he's hiding.

, or Biden's last moments of power before he totters off the world stage and Obama is forced to use other operatives in the bureaucracy.

I tend to think they're cooking up something unpleasant for Trump to deal with as he takes office.

Uh, oh, Houston, do we have a problem?

Not all states have turned in their Certifications of Ascertainment.

2024 Electoral College Results​

"Check back for the Certificates of Ascertainment and the Certificates of Vote from the 2024 election. They will be posted as they become available.

2024 Certificate of Ascertainment​

In the following discussion, 'state' includes the District of Columbia and 'governor' includes the Mayor of the District.
The Certificate of Ascertainment is a filing that each state is required to make after the presidential election. It is due six days before the electors meet to cast their votes. In 2024, electors will convene in each state on December 17. As such, the Certificate is due by December 11."

View the 2024 Certificate of Ascertainment for Each State - 270toWin

Each state is required to certify the winning slate of electors by December 11. Those electors will then vote on December 17.

www.270towin.com

Electoral College Timeline of Events​

Electoral College Timeline of Events

Under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated three electors and treated like a State for purposes of the Electoral College. In the following discussion, the term “State” also refers to the District of Columbia, and the term “Executive” also refers to State...

www.archives.gov

 

[Margery]

OHHHH, does that mean they could interfere with the outcome of the election??? I know very little about your methods of elections. I've heard of electors, they are supposed to vote as they are instructed by the voters in those areas but that's all I "know" and it's alarming. Would that interfere with the majority in either the Senate or the House? You call it the House right? Like our House of Commons.

 

[Andy C]

OHHHH, does that mean they could interfere with the outcome of the election??? I know very little about your methods of elections. I've heard of electors, they are supposed to vote as they are instructed by the voters in those areas but that's all I "know" and it's alarming. Would that interfere with the majority in either the Senate or the House? You call it the House right? Like our House of Commons.

Nothing can be done to change the outcome. Had the final results been within a few electoral votes, maybe, but Trump won by 86 electoral votes.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

The Electoral College is only for President and Vice President, as they're National offices, and all states participate in the election.

Senators and Representatives form National bodies (Congress, bicameral, made up of Senate and House of Representatives), but they're elected by individual states.

 

[Margery]

Nothing can be done to change the outcome. Had the final results been within a few electoral votes, maybe, but Trump won by 86 electoral votes.

That's a relief to hear! I was equating that to a minority govt like in Canada or Israel.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Nothing can be done to change the outcome. Had the final results been within a few electoral votes, maybe, but Trump won by 86 electoral votes.

That's a relief to hear! I was equating that to a minority govt like in Canada or Israel.

It's not actually official until January 6, 2025.

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes​

"Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.

If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one-fifth of the members of the House and one-fifth of the Senators. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection(s) under procedures set out in Federal law. Only two grounds for objection are acceptable: that the electors of the State were not lawfully certified under a Certificate of Ascertainment, or that the vote of one or more electors has not been regularly given.

If no Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution the House of Representatives decides the Presidential election. If necessary, the House would elect the President by majority vote, choosing from among the three candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. The vote would be taken by State, with each State having one vote. (The District of Columbia does not vote because it doesn't have voting members in the House of Representatives.)

If no Vice Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority or the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment the Senate elects the Vice President. If necessary, the Senate would elect the Vice President by majority vote, choosing between the two candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. Each Senator would have one vote."

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Electoral College Timeline of Events

Electoral College Timeline of Events

Under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated three electors and treated like a State for purposes of the Electoral College. In the following discussion, the term “State” also refers to the District of Columbia, and the term “Executive” also refers to State...

www.archives.gov

 

[Andy C]

It's not actually official until January 6, 2025.


Electoral College Timeline of Events

Electoral College Timeline of Events

Under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated three electors and treated like a State for purposes of the Electoral College. In the following discussion, the term “State” also refers to the District of Columbia, and the term “Executive” also refers to State...

www.archives.gov

Yes, but as the Bible states “the writing is on the wall”…..

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

All sorts of things can still go wrong with the Electoral College process.

For instance, if a state's Certification of Ascertainment isn't received at least six days before the Electoral voting, maybe Electors from that state can be challenged. I'm not a Constitutional Law attorney, so IDK. Ditto if not all states turn in their Certificates of Vote (each one the record of Elector votes in one state).

If enough Electors are successfully challenged, maybe no one gets to 270


Here are the key dates:

November 5, 2024—Election Day​

By December 11, 2024—States issue Certificates of Ascertainment
(at least six days before the meeting of the electors)

December 17, 2024—electors vote in their States

December 25, 2024—electoral votes arrive
Electoral votes must be received by the President of the Senate and the Archivist no later than the fourth Wednesday in December. If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.

On or before January 3, 2025—Archivist transfers Certificates to Congress
As the new Congress assembles, the Archivist transmits sets of Certificates to Congress, as requested. This generally happens when the Senate does not receive its set of Certificates on time. The transfer occurs in late December or early January when OFR’s Legal staff meets with representatives of the Secretary of the Senate, the Clerk of the House, and Congressional Parliamentarians.

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes
Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.
If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one-fifth of the members of the House and one-fifth of the Senators. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection(s) under procedures set out in Federal law. Only two grounds for objection are acceptable: that the electors of the State were not lawfully certified under a Certificate of Ascertainment, or that the vote of one or more electors has not been regularly given.

January 20, 2025 at Noon—Inauguration Day

 

[Margery]

So basically pray, for the govt and those in authority over us, pray for our leaders, so that we can lead quiet peaceable lives, and spread the gospel.
1 Tim 2:1-2
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; for kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Uh, oh.

The Electoral College was supposed to vote December 17th.
I just checked the National Archives, and there are no Certificates of Vote posted online, yet.
There are still no Certificates of Ascertainment posted online for Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania.

2024 Electoral College Results

Check back for the Certificates of Ascertainment and the Certificates of Vote from the 2024 election. They will be posted as they become available. President* Donald J. Trump [R] Main Opponent* Kamala D. Harris [D] Electoral Vote Winner: Main Opponent: Total/Majority: 538/270 Vice President*...

www.archives.gov

270 to Win has links to some of the States' proceedings (some of the links go to the State's official video, in which the EC is "somewhere." At least one, the video is blank. There aren't links for each state.

Electoral College Vote for the 2024 Presidential Election - 270toWin

The map on this page will update as the presidential electors cast their votes on December 17, 2024.

www.270towin.com

Here's Minnesota

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[Andy C]

Uh, oh.

The Electoral College was supposed to vote December 17th.
I just checked the National Archives, and there are no Certificates of Vote posted online, yet.
There are still no Certificates of Ascertainment posted online for Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania.

2024 Electoral College Results

Check back for the Certificates of Ascertainment and the Certificates of Vote from the 2024 election. They will be posted as they become available. President* Donald J. Trump [R] Main Opponent* Kamala D. Harris [D] Electoral Vote Winner: Main Opponent: Total/Majority: 538/270 Vice President*...

www.archives.gov

270 to Win has links to some of the States' proceedings (some of the links go to the State's official video, in which the EC is "somewhere." At least one, the video is blank. There aren't links for each state.

Electoral College Vote for the 2024 Presidential Election - 270toWin

The map on this page will update as the presidential electors cast their votes on December 17, 2024.

www.270towin.com

Here's Minnesota

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

There is nothing “funny” going to happen. No chance, zero, nada, el zippo….

Electoral College Timeline of Events

Under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution, the District of Columbia is allocated three electors and treated like a State for purposes of the Electoral College. In the following discussion, the term “State” also refers to the District of Columbia, and the term “Executive” also refers to State...

www.archives.gov