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Calling The Election Of Trump ‘Evil,’ John Piper Reminds Christians Why He’s Not Trusted

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(I posted this under False Doctrine because it is John Piper who is not trustworthy IMO)

After months of prayer and Christian leaders calling Believers to action, the American people earlier this month voted decisively to reject the anti-America and anti-God policies of the Democrat party and elect Donald Trump. It was a victory for the unborn, for children, for national security, for Biblical morality, for Israel, and for the church. And yet, well-known pastor John Piper was less than pleased with the results, referring to the re-election of Trump as an “evil.”

“Presidential election results. Having delivered us from one evil, God now tests us with another,” Piper wrote on X.

While his comments are troubling, especially considering the weight many in the church place on his opinion, it shouldn’t surprise us.

During the 2016 presidential election, Piper actively worked to dissuade believers from voting, saying at the time that both candidates (Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton) displayed “flagrant wickedness.” According to Piper, too many Believers feel “obligated” to vote, treating it as a “binding duty” to impact the nation that is not their home. During that election cycle, Piper told his congregants that, while he was intending to cast a vote, he had “no intention of voting for either of these presidential candidates.”

In 2020 and 2023, Piper carried on his efforts to discourage evangelicals from casting their votes, insisting that going to church every Sunday is more impactful than going to the ballot box and reiterating his stance of not voting for either candidate. On the topic of abortion, Piper snubbed the idea that “Roe and SCOTUS and Planned Parenthood” are effective battlegrounds to defend the unborn—a position that should have been corrected following the overturning of Roe v Wade and many States that now significantly protect life as a result.

 
Piper was very wrong to urge Christians not to vote. We all know that a refusal to vote would have been a vote for complete evil. I certainly don't think Trump is a paragon of Biblical values but he is definitely more on the side of decency and traditional Biblical values. We shall just have to wait and see how he does this second term.
 
Piper was very wrong to urge Christians not to vote. We all know that a refusal to vote would have been a vote for complete evil. I certainly don't think Trump is a paragon of Biblical values but he is definitely more on the side of decency and traditional Biblical values. We shall just have to wait and see how he does this second term.

Trump is the President of the USA, not of some Christian Nation that some wishfully think the USA is. His constituency is all Americans. Within that constituency you have a smallish number of true Believers, quite a few religious church goers, a good number of people who have no belief in God... and others, and Trump will be the President of all those groups.

I was content with Trump's efforts during his first term. I didn't like everything he did but I liked that he seemed to be trying to do right by the USA.
 
Sometimes pastors get lost among all the trees of holiness and holy living and teaching and proclaiming such, and lose sight of the forest. They lose the overview; and worse, they lead believers who follow them in the wrong direction. Nebuchadnezzar was not a holy man; neither was Cyrus. But God used them both, despite their own sin, to bless His people for His purposes. And I have little doubt God will use President Trump in the same way. Jesus Christ is our Savior; Trump is not. Trump is not even the savior of America; God is. And God has given us President Trump to accomplish His purposes. Hopefully, as Christians, we are in tune with those purposes.
 
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