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Britain and France Announce Nuclear Weapon Co-Ordination For First Time

Tall Timbers

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France will co-ordinate its nuclear weapons with a foreign power for the first time under a new agreement with the United Kingdom expressed as a bid to deter “extreme threats” against Europe.

A new nuclear agreement has been reached between the United Kingdom and France, it was announced this week as France’s President Macron was hosted in London for a state visit. Per statements by both governments, the neighbouring nations agree that no nuclear threat to one could possibly not impact the other, so coordination of their nuclear weapons will help the pair protect the “Euro Atlantic area” from threats.

Under the deal both nuclear deterrents will remain independent, but will be subjected to as-of-yet unspecified coordination. The UK government said: “any adversary threatening the vital interests of Britain or France could be confronted by the strength of the nuclear forces of both nations”.


I would say that the most extreme threat to both countries are the islamist hordes they've invited into their countries, and nukes won't help them avoid the consequences of that.
 
This is part of the REARM Europe initiative. Discussed at NATO this last month as part of a joint venture that would work towards a European army to protect it's members and those who are part of the REARM group. There is discussion going on about the defence of Greenland (a part of Denmark, therefore a part of NATO) - which is why the emphasis on "Atlantic" stuff, it's not just to make Britain feel included. It's meant to remind certain NATO members that Greenland ain't up for grabs! Also to remind Russia and China that Greenland ain't theirs either!

As a member of NATO -Greenland is being included. Greenland is still part of Denmark, their vote of independence means they are an autonomous region- and as such Greenland is a part of NATO.

The REARM project will take years- it's just getting going but it's the first formal steps to Europe defending itself.

This was what was going on at NATO in between amping up from 2% of GDP to 5% which was the requirement that Trump wanted. Rutte must have been busy.

It is truly amazing to see Europe pulling together into a geopolitical alliance beyond the EU. It's moving towards becoming Rome 2.0 quite fast.

There was a lot discussed at NATO. And there will be more coming out in future including banking cooperation.
 
This is part of the REARM Europe initiative. Discussed at NATO this last month as part of a joint venture that would work towards a European army to protect it's members and those who are part of the REARM group. There is discussion going on about the defence of Greenland (a part of Denmark, therefore a part of NATO) - which is why the emphasis on "Atlantic" stuff, it's not just to make Britain feel included. It's meant to remind certain NATO members that Greenland ain't up for grabs! Also to remind Russia and China that Greenland ain't theirs either!

As a member of NATO -Greenland is being included. Greenland is still part of Denmark, their vote of independence means they are an autonomous region- and as such Greenland is a part of NATO.

The REARM project will take years- it's just getting going but it's the first formal steps to Europe defending itself.

This was what was going on at NATO in between amping up from 2% of GDP to 5% which was the requirement that Trump wanted. Rutte must have been busy.

It is truly amazing to see Europe pulling together into a geopolitical alliance beyond the EU. It's moving towards becoming Rome 2.0 quite fast.

There was a lot discussed at NATO. And there will be more coming out in future including banking cooperation.
Interesting to see Europe coordinate outside of the EU. Margery, would you see this as a moving away from the globalist drive inherent in the EU? Or just a different arm functioning of globalism? I am thinking to ask because your perspective from Canada has some insider scoops I'm pretty certain the USA does not get all that much of. And the reason i ask too is because it would seem a good thing if globalism grasp through EU is eroding. Nation states in and of themselves operating independently from the EU seems as much as a healthy sign away from globalism as it might in how we could see them forming a different kind of governing coordination the evolves into the tribulation days. How might you understand all that? Thanks :) Blessings.
 
Interesting to see Europe coordinate outside of the EU. Margery, would you see this as a moving away from the globalist drive inherent in the EU? Or just a different arm functioning of globalism? I am thinking to ask because your perspective from Canada has some insider scoops I'm pretty certain the USA does not get all that much of. And the reason i ask too is because it would seem a good thing if globalism grasp through EU is eroding. Nation states in and of themselves operating independently from the EU seems as much as a healthy sign away from globalism as it might in how we could see them forming a different kind of governing coordination the evolves into the tribulation days. How might you understand all that? Thanks :) Blessings.
Sad to say this is globalism on steroids TCC. Not even a different arm. Just the final form of a vision they've had since the EU started up. Brexit put a wrinkle in things as Britain exited the EU but they remain closely tied in trade and defence, and now this.

Globalism isn't eroding. It's expanding. First the EU, then outwards in a circle to include trade partners around the world. Banking is being coordinated too. None of the USA former allies are being clear about what they are doing or why, but 2 things are driving this change around the globe: 1 is the tariffs from April 2 and the flip flops since. 2 is the threat to annex Canada, Greenland and the Panama.

What I see from the US media with very few exceptions is an echo chamber on the Left, but also on the Right. Reading the news from other countries gives a very different perspective. Even about the same people and events.

As always your mileage may vary.

Here's an example of what the news might have missed recently: ‘Goodbye Trump, hello Asia’ is the EU’s new trade strategy. Will it work?
I can't seem to copy and paste in from the article but it describes an attempt to replace the World Trade Organization with this group, under the EU AND corner 30% of the world trade excluding the USA, Russia and China.

This is an example of what I'm talking about. It is from Politico EU which isn't usually quoted in the American press. It could be dismissed as just more leftist globalist chit chat, but dismissing what your enemies are saying as unworthy to listen to, just leaves us unprepared. I read things from all kinds of sources just because I hate echo chambers and find them risky.

This is Europe expanding in influence at the same time as the US is turning inwards. That does line up with prophecy. If we are looking at a near term Rapture followed by a near term Tribulation period, we SHOULD see Europe in an expansion. The CPTPP or Comprehensive Trans Pacific Trade Partnership or some such name for short, is a group that Canada and Mexico are part of, but not Europe. Trump opted out at the start in 2017 or so, and as Ursula helpfully points out, is unlikely to be invited back in. That CPTPP is joining up with the EU and Britain under Canada's assistence to expand a trade partnership that includes a hefty chunk of the world outside the USA, Russia and China.

I am reasonably sure this was a prime topic of conversation when Trump wasn't in earshot! In BOTH the NATO and the G7 meetings here in Canada! Which Trump didn't stay at, just making a brief appearence at both. He was busy with the Iran bombing situation at the time. NATO and the G7 went on without him. And when he was there, Rutte flattered him as did Mark Carney.

I immediately thought about how the future Rome 2.0 would be trying to grab control of the world for the AC and then saw how this is coming together. While Trump is doing tariffs, the rest of the world is starting to create alternative trading partnerships without the States. That fits prophecy.

This was happening behind the scenes at the recent NATO summit but also at several other high profile meetings like the G7. And Mark Carney was a BIG part.

It is no accident that the new Prime Minister of Canada happened to have been at both, helping things along towards central bank stuff, towards globalist stuff etc. Unfortunately he was Trump's pick for Canada as Trump thought he was easy to manipulate unlike the straightforward, NON globalist Pierre Poilievre.

His profile at Wikipedia is easy to access and here's the highlights: I'm going to bold the bits to pay attention to. Please note the education and where he got his degrees. These are LEFTIST and GLOBALIST in the extreme. Notice how he starts to really rise during the 2008 financial crisis. Then Brexit and COVID give him another leg up into world affairs. THEN the UN! Back to Canada to take over from the mess Trudeau left behind. Look at the theme of CLIMATE action. What ISN'T mentioned here is that he is also WEF under Klaus Schwab.

"Carney was born in Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, and raised in Edmonton, Alberta. He graduated with a bachelor's degree in economics from Harvard University in 1987 before studying at the University of Oxford, where he earned a master's degree in economics in 1993 and a doctorate in economics in 1995.

He then held a number of roles at the investment bank Goldman Sachs, before joining the Bank of Canada as a deputy governor in 2003. In 2004, he was named as a senior associate deputy minister for the Department of Finance Canada. Carney served as the eighth governor of the Bank of Canada from 2008 to 2013, where he was responsible for Canadian monetary policy during the 2008 financial crisis. During this time, he was also appointed as the second Chair of the Financial Stability Board, a position he held for two terms from 2011 to 2018.

Following his term as Governor of the Bank of Canada, he was appointed as the 120th governor of the Bank of England, serving from 2013 to 2020, where he led the British central bank's response to Brexit and the early phase of the COVID pandemic.

After leaving central banking, Carney held a number of roles in the private and public sectors, including being chair of Bloomberg L.P. and chair and head of impact investing at Brookfield Asset Management. In December 2019, United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres appointed Carney to be his Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance. Carney also worked as one of several informal advisors to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during the COVID pandemic and was appointed chair of the Liberal Party's economic growth task force by Trudeau in September 2024. In 2023, Carney became co-chair of the World Bank's private sector investment lab.

In January 2025, after Justin Trudeau resigned his leadership, Carney announced his intention to seek the leadership of the Liberal Party of Canada, and went on to win a landslide victory in March.
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Here is an article (in French unfortunately) from Montreal exploring the connection to DAVOS and WEF and Klaus Schwab. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2025/04/04/mark-carney-un-homme-de-davos

basically saying leopards don't change their spots, a man that hangs out at Davos under the tutelage of Klaus Schwab and believes in the WEF is still the same guy if we make him PM of Canada - he still wants us all to eat bugs.

the Margery rough translation. Sadly I couldn't figure out how to do that handy google translate into English, but that is very roughly what is being said. The author DID say that about the bugs. She wasn't impressed.

The English versions in Canada seem to be suddenly disappearing from view that happens up here! But Western Separatism to the rescue- I have something for you in English.

Here is the less pithy but equally devastating point of view in English from The Western Standard (the Western separatist rag) SNELL: Carney — the World Economic Forum's new man in Ottawa?

Here's a little snippet from it:
"Prime Minister Mark Carney, sworn in Friday, has a history with the World Economic Forum (WEF.) He is a member of its foundation board, the organization’s highest governing body, which oversees strategic direction. We may assume therefore, that he is in sympathy with the goals of the World Economic Forum.

Carney’s affiliation — whether current or not — therefore makes comments from WEF founder Klaus Schwab alarming, at least to sceptics. With another Canadian prime minister having a sympathetic ear for the WEF, it raises questions about the World Economic Forum's ability to influence domestic policy from outside the country.

“We penetrate the cabinets,” Schwab said in 2017. “So, yesterday, I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau, and I know that half of his cabinet — or even more than half — are actually Young Global Leaders of the World Economic Forum.”

“I have to say, when I mention names like Mrs. (Angela) Merkel and even Vladimir Putin, and so on, they all have been Young Global Leaders of the World Economic Forum. But what we are very proud of now is the young generation, like Prime Minister (Justin) Trudeau.”

Schwab and his colleagues created a controversial initiative called the Great Reset — to critics, a top-down agenda driven by a wealthy, unelected global elite.
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That article goes on to point out that Carney views himself as more European than Canadian, and it's no surprise that he is steering the bus towards Europe as fast as he can.

Carney is USING Trump's threats and tariffs to get where he wants Canada to go, far faster than anyone ever thought possible.

And Mark Rutte of NATO is helping out.

So is Ursula Von der Leyen of the EU.

All acting together in unison. A harmony of spirit, that comes straight out of the globalist handbooks. Using the Tariffs, using Trump's threats to annex Greenland and Canada in particular but also the Panama.

You won't hear that sort of thing on Fox or MSNBC either. It's the rest of the world sidestepping a problem that they aren't happy with.

Don't under estimate the anger and resolve that Trump's threats to annex Greenland have on Europe, or the same within Canada. Things are changing as they do. Nothing stays the same. Actions have reactions. Unintended consequences happen.

But it's all forming towards what the Bible said.
 
HA I got the google translate thing to work.

Heres' the French article in English- the translate function doesn't do headers well, and acronyms get mixed up so WEF is the same as GEF or EGF in here. I've bolded a few bits. You can see the shock and horror from the French gastronomic point of view to eating bugs or threatening the rural and suburban lifestyle.

"Tell me who you frequent, I'll tell you who you are."

While Canadians will soon have to choose a prime minister, this proven popular wisdom can help identify candidates.

Mark Carney has been completely unknown to the public until recently, we need to inquire about his acquaintances before entrusting him with our future.


GEF


It turns out that Mr. Carney has long been revolving around the World Economic Forum (WEF), an organization where Klaus Schwab and self-proclaimed elites are imagining how to redraw our lives according to their technocratic and unified vision.

Among its many ambitions, the EGF wants to popularise the consumption of insects as a substitute for meat, and promotes laboratory meat as an alternative to traditional livestock farming.

It also supports the concept of a “15-minute city”, which, to reduce the carbon footprint, promotes restrictions on mobility and threatens rural or suburban lifestyles.

The EGF also launched the idea of attributing a digital identity to each individual, linking personal data, health, finance and behaviour in a globalised system, thus paving the way for full surveillance.

Nor does it hide its contempt for individual choices, preferring a world in which elites decide for the masses, and where national sovereignty is erased in favor of global governance.

Mark Carney was a key player in the GEF's global agenda and visions. And, given his veneration of the most rigid climate dogmas, including carbonutality, the United Nations has appointed him as Special Envoy for Climate Financing.


Technocrate


"Tell me who you frequent, I'll tell you who you are..." It is all indications that Mark Carney is a globalist and a technocrat of Davos.

Now, a man cannot serve two masters. And who serves the interests of a disconnected elite cannot therefore defend those of ordinary citizens. To meditate before you go to vote
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That's it, a short article but pithy and to the point.

Bottom line, wanna eat bugs, vote Carney for PM, wanna stay free, avoid Carney for PM. You know how that went. Hello bugs!


As for that new term carbonutality I left it there, a tribute to Google's grasp of the obvious. It came from the French term carboneutralité, which is Frenglish at best and means Carbon neutral.

But the truth is that Carbo nuts wanna make us live in 15 minute cities, eating bugs. It's Carbo Nuts Mentality all together!

Down with Carbo nut ality!
 
Interesting to see Europe coordinate outside of the EU. Margery, would you see this as a moving away from the globalist drive inherent in the EU? Or just a different arm functioning of globalism? I am thinking to ask because your perspective from Canada has some insider scoops I'm pretty certain the USA does not get all that much of. And the reason i ask too is because it would seem a good thing if globalism grasp through EU is eroding. Nation states in and of themselves operating independently from the EU seems as much as a healthy sign away from globalism as it might in how we could see them forming a different kind of governing coordination the evolves into the tribulation days. How might you understand all that? Thanks :) Blessings.
I would also draw a very straight line between Mark Rutte of NATO influencing things in Washington that Europe wants. Namely more US support of Ukraine to keep Russia occupied while Europe does their REARM Europe thing. They need Russia off balance for the near future.

This is also why Rutte appears to be Trumps' best friend in Europe right now. And why you'll see clips of him on the news in the Oval Office talking about Ukraine and increased shipments of weapons,

And I'd also draw a fairly straight line between that all happening and Trump's annoyance with Putin right now and his announcement of tariffs on Russia the other day if they don't do what Trump wants.

This is what Rutte seems to be good at. Flattery and stirring the pot a little to ensure things turn out the way he and his cronies want.

When coincidences pile up- they are no longer coincidental. It might be time to raise an eyebrow and quit believing Fox News when they gush about how wonderful Mark Rutte is, and what a friend to Trump.

Pay attention to the temperature with Russia and if this moves the USA closer to war with Russia or farther away!
 
The EGF also launched the idea of attributing a digital identity to each individual, linking personal data, health, finance and behaviour in a globalised system, thus paving the way for full surveillance.

Nor does it hide its contempt for individual choices, preferring a world in which elites decide for the masses, and where national sovereignty is erased in favor of global governance.
There’s a shrinking number of rational voices pointing out the coming nightmare dystopian world.

Do you know what has come of the French farmer’s tractor protests? Those protests were sparked across Europe. Do you think they will get swept under the rug like the Canadian truckers convoy against lock downs?

Isn’t it so weird to see Rome 2.0 shaping up this way? Very obviously greedy elites bossing us all around? Ordinary people see it’s futile and we even see how the elites are planning an evil world that will destroy them too. It would be fun to ask Klaus Schwab how things turned out for him in a few years. We watch as the Clintons and Obamas lose relevance, not to mention Al Gore, John Kerry, etc.

a few days ago I was catching up on James Lindsay as he explains that Marxism fought against Christianity in the USSR, and how many WW2 Nazis escaped to South America where they infiltrated the RCC. Similar strategies. The Nazis won over priests through Liberation Theology, and that was the seed bed for today’s woke ideologies. As bad as both of those attacks against Christianity were, neither were as stupid as today’s elite globalists.
 
I would also draw a very straight line between Mark Rutte of NATO influencing things in Washington that Europe wants. Namely more US support of Ukraine to keep Russia occupied while Europe does their REARM Europe thing. They need Russia off balance for the near future.

This is also why Rutte appears to be Trumps' best friend in Europe right now. And why you'll see clips of him on the news in the Oval Office talking about Ukraine and increased shipments of weapons,

And I'd also draw a fairly straight line between that all happening and Trump's annoyance with Putin right now and his announcement of tariffs on Russia the other day if they don't do what Trump wants.

This is what Rutte seems to be good at. Flattery and stirring the pot a little to ensure things turn out the way he and his cronies want.

When coincidences pile up- they are no longer coincidental. It might be time to raise an eyebrow and quit believing Fox News when they gush about how wonderful Mark Rutte is, and what a friend to Trump.

Pay attention to the temperature with Russia and if this moves the USA closer to war with Russia or farther away!
Thanks Margery for the perspective. The only thing on Fox i watch is Maria Bartiromo. As much as i might seem interested in politics, as things thicken i find myself kind of grossed out lol. And kind of scolding myself for caring. I do think what has been good for me is the whole Epstein thing. Personally i would have seen that as a huge insight into the world we live. And along the way i do appreciate differing perspectives. Like @Andy C. Very different from mine. But at the end of the day, may end up be far more level headed. I hate that when that happens....lol. But it kind of feels good to be off or wrong. I may not be. But if Trump can blow this off so cavalierly, maybe we were just sold a bil of goods. That the world really was that evil. Kind of takes the fun out of end times though. I feel like i've been spooked back into the 1800s lol. But like with a nice glass of ice tea...kckin it by the pool. 😎

Not really following fox, my sense about Trump and Putin is that Trump is not really on either side. He just wants the fighting to stop. The Ukraine leader is a 21st century brat, and Putin is X-kjb running one of the biggest countries known to mankind. What could go wrong? lol. It just seems like Trump having Europe pay for weapons and build the war that way (after putin signed on to negotiate with Iran) is Trump dressed in Kamikaze garb at the dinner party with a lampshade on his head. Zelenski having the USA after your minerals is not a sweet spot against putin. Big L there.

Anyway, well all that guessing was fun. Why don't you say we all wrap this up and just move on to eternity...already. Don't get me wrong. This planet earth thing you earthlings call it is fun and all...but i feel like i have been chewing licorice for like 25 years now. And my jaws are tired...lol. I don't wanna guess anymore. Can we just have a food fight :p

Bless your heart Margery. I think i just need some sleep. Thanks for sharing. America certainly seems cozy with the EU, and the Arab world, and even in ways Russia. Its like we want to be everyone's friend. lol. Its kind of cute. Blessings.
 
Thanks Margery for the perspective. The only thing on Fox i watch is Maria Bartiromo. As much as i might seem interested in politics, as things thicken i find myself kind of grossed out lol. And kind of scolding myself for caring. I do think what has been good for me is the whole Epstein thing. Personally i would have seen that as a huge insight into the world we live. And along the way i do appreciate differing perspectives. Like @Andy C. Very different from mine. But at the end of the day, may end up be far more level headed. I hate that when that happens....lol. But it kind of feels good to be off or wrong. I may not be. But if Trump can blow this off so cavalierly, maybe we were just sold a bil of goods. That the world really was that evil. Kind of takes the fun out of end times though. I feel like i've been spooked back into the 1800s lol. But like with a nice glass of ice tea...kckin it by the pool. 😎

Not really following fox, my sense about Trump and Putin is that Trump is not really on either side. He just wants the fighting to stop. The Ukraine leader is a 21st century brat, and Putin is X-kjb running one of the biggest countries known to mankind. What could go wrong? lol. It just seems like Trump having Europe pay for weapons and build the war that way (after putin signed on to negotiate with Iran) is Trump dressed in Kamikaze garb at the dinner party with a lampshade on his head. Zelenski having the USA after your minerals is not a sweet spot against putin. Big L there.

Anyway, well all that guessing was fun. Why don't you say we all wrap this up and just move on to eternity...already. Don't get me wrong. This planet earth thing you earthlings call it is fun and all...but i feel like i have been chewing licorice for like 25 years now. And my jaws are tired...lol. I don't wanna guess anymore. Can we just have a food fight :p

Bless your heart Margery. I think i just need some sleep. Thanks for sharing. America certainly seems cozy with the EU, and the Arab world, and even in ways Russia. Its like we want to be everyone's friend. lol. Its kind of cute. Blessings.
Teren, the best way I can put this, and give your heart rest in all this

Normal isn't coming back

But Jesus IS!

These things are just signposts on the road to the Rapture that we are getting closer. The depressing indicators that Rome 2.0 as I call it, is forming, the sight of the Ezek 38 coalition starting to pull together.

All they really mean to us is that our first sight of Jesus face is all the closer! It's REALLY close, it's REALLY happening, and it's starting to look like what the Bible described.

So if we see this stuff forming, we are going to see the King of Kings even sooner.

:hug:

There’s a shrinking number of rational voices pointing out the coming nightmare dystopian world.

Do you know what has come of the French farmer’s tractor protests? Those protests were sparked across Europe. Do you think they will get swept under the rug like the Canadian truckers convoy against lock downs?

Isn’t it so weird to see Rome 2.0 shaping up this way? Very obviously greedy elites bossing us all around? Ordinary people see it’s futile and we even see how the elites are planning an evil world that will destroy them too. It would be fun to ask Klaus Schwab how things turned out for him in a few years. We watch as the Clintons and Obamas lose relevance, not to mention Al Gore, John Kerry, etc.

a few days ago I was catching up on James Lindsay as he explains that Marxism fought against Christianity in the USSR, and how many WW2 Nazis escaped to South America where they infiltrated the RCC. Similar strategies. The Nazis won over priests through Liberation Theology, and that was the seed bed for today’s woke ideologies. As bad as both of those attacks against Christianity were, neither were as stupid as today’s elite globalists.
People who put the Bible first see the clearest. They rearrange their pre suppositions or ideas of how it's "supposed" to be as the Bible shows them the truth. Put the Bible first- the rest takes care of itself. It takes time. A lifetime. It's always been one of my interests.

I don't know what happened to the tractor protests. I looked it up and they were protesting again at the end of May - theirs was for agriculture, while our truckers were for the freedom to question the shots. Macron probably tried to buy them off with a few concessions I suppose but I don't look at France much. Except when Carney is pulling us back into Europe. I like Marine Le Pen, and always enjoy peeking in when they are in elections but they are working hard to shut her out for next time. Macron is a banker type like Carney, and the WEF is behind them both. So I don't think farmers in tractors and truckers in big rigs win in the end.

The Nazi's had help in the Vatican- a lot of Nazi gold and Nazi "refugees" went to South America with the help of the Vatican.

There is a reason Satan started dumbing down the schools even before WW1 got off the ground. That process has been in place a long time. Like Communism and Nazism. The West couldn't be duped as easily if their principles of freedom and individual choice were not removed generation by generation. I got into the history of that when I began homeschooling. It began in the universities, and it's why there was a war on phonics for example and why the "new math" crippled a bunch of kids. But it didn't stop at reading and math. It was world view, it was the Scopes trial and yielding the high ground of Bible authority in origins, archaeology, even the Bible itself. (higher critics from the German school) Ken Ham did a good job explaining why when we let go of Genesis, we lose the arguments.

After all if there is no real Adam and Eve, who Fell? Why do humans need redemption? Why the Cross? It all gets back to Satan's war on education and his systems of indoctrinating the young.

There was a reason that both Communists and Nazis were intent on bending the youth to their ideology, before their brains were fully mature and they could reason.

Satan has a good idea of where we are on the timeline of history, and he noticed when Theodore Herzel began the Zionist movement to bring Israel back to life, back in the 1890s. A lot of stuff started happening then. Back when Russia didn't know what a Bolshevik was, still had a Tsar. When Britain headed up an Empire that the sun didn't set on (and she spawned a huge missionary movement long before America followed suit).

Germany had an interesting authoritarian culture that English authors commented on. (thinking of the guy who wrote 2 Men in a Boat- about travelling in Europe, particularly noting how Germany differed from England in their culture, educational system for children etc) back in the 1890s.

The roots of today's conflicts lies back in the past. If we have an eye for it, we can trace where Satan put seeds down and we can see (if we look with understanding) where The Restrainer restrains things till such time as they are allowed.

And THAT has me fascinated.
 
There’s a shrinking number of rational voices pointing out the coming nightmare dystopian world.

Do you know what has come of the French farmer’s tractor protests? Those protests were sparked across Europe. Do you think they will get swept under the rug like the Canadian truckers convoy against lock downs?

Isn’t it so weird to see Rome 2.0 shaping up this way? Very obviously greedy elites bossing us all around? Ordinary people see it’s futile and we even see how the elites are planning an evil world that will destroy them too. It would be fun to ask Klaus Schwab how things turned out for him in a few years. We watch as the Clintons and Obamas lose relevance, not to mention Al Gore, John Kerry, etc.

a few days ago I was catching up on James Lindsay as he explains that Marxism fought against Christianity in the USSR, and how many WW2 Nazis escaped to South America where they infiltrated the RCC. Similar strategies. The Nazis won over priests through Liberation Theology, and that was the seed bed for today’s woke ideologies. As bad as both of those attacks against Christianity were, neither were as stupid as today’s elite globalists.
So well said :heart:
 
There was a reason that both Communists and Nazis were intent on bending the youth to their ideology, before their brains were fully mature and they could reason.

Satan has a good idea of where we are on the timeline of history, and he noticed when Theodore Herzel began the Zionist movement to bring Israel back to life, back in the 1890s. A lot of stuff started happening then. Back when Russia didn't know what a Bolshevik was, still had a Tsar. When Britain headed up an Empire that the sun didn't set on (and she spawned a huge missionary movement long before America followed suit).

Germany had an interesting authoritarian culture that English authors commented on. (thinking of the guy who wrote 2 Men in a Boat- about travelling in Europe, particularly noting how Germany differed from England in their culture, educational system for children etc) back in the 1890s.
There's a long line of robust intellectuals who satanic forces used to engineer this stage of civilizations deterioration.

I was wondering if you'd noticed how today's globalists seem pretty low on intelligence? It makes sense that they'd come out of satanic educational systems dumbed down, but we could do a Babylon Bee exposé on nearly everything that comes out of their mouths!
It surprises me that today's globalists aren't even somewhat concerned that they sound stupid :cookiemonster:
 
There's a long line of robust intellectuals who satanic forces used to engineer this stage of civilizations deterioration.

I was wondering if you'd noticed how today's globalists seem pretty low on intelligence? It makes sense that they'd come out of satanic educational systems dumbed down, but we could do a Babylon Bee exposé on nearly everything that comes out of their mouths!
It surprises me that today's globalists aren't even somewhat concerned that they sound stupid :cookiemonster:
Probably because they see themselves as trend setters and media influencers that need their base to think as they do. I'm not so sure how a fractured soul over leading the masses into Idoacracy helps them sleep at night. But somehow manage :(
 
There's a long line of robust intellectuals who satanic forces used to engineer this stage of civilizations deterioration.

I was wondering if you'd noticed how today's globalists seem pretty low on intelligence? It makes sense that they'd come out of satanic educational systems dumbed down, but we could do a Babylon Bee exposé on nearly everything that comes out of their mouths!
It surprises me that today's globalists aren't even somewhat concerned that they sound stupid :cookiemonster:
Umm not quite. I'll explain. I notice something but it's a bit different.

I look at things from a longer wider perspective.

I see puppets on strings! The puppets minds are perfectly good, many of them are quite intelligent, like Yuval Noah Hariri or Elon Musk, BUT

here's the big
BUT

But they are crazy, deluded, not dumb. They have the same insanity that plagues Satan. BTW I think lesser fallen angels do the grunt work of pulling the strings, but under Satanic inspiration.

You see it might be tempting to think of Satan as stupid in the same measure- he knows God, from his get go, he knows that God brought the universe into being, that none of it can hold together without God, yet he somehow aspires to depose God and grab it for himself. He is one of the most intelligent beings ever created. But he became deluded. Self deluded. He knows his fate, but still tries.

I don't see Mark Carney, Elon Musk, Yuval Noah Hariri, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab as low IQ. Any more than I thought of my father's side of the family as low IQ despite their inability to grasp the concept of God as existing and having a standard of measurement. Yet they were caught in that delusion.

The problem isn't with the intelligence.

It's delusion.

Public education is designed to create blind obedience to whatever group think is going. You see that group think with the unquestioning assumptions about climate change, origins of life and so on. Peer pressure is a strange thing. The only time in a child's life they are surrounded by their age mates. Work won't be like that. Life doesn't work like that. 32 kids their age, and 1 adult. Peer pressure teaches more stupid stuff than the teacher can. Drugs, sex, pornography, suicide, abortion. Peer pressure. TV, music, movies and video games do some more. Homosexual grooming begins early before the brain develops properly, ditto drugs.

Higher education is designed for indoctrination, so that the ideas that began as unquestioned "facts" in elementary school are pounded in. Mark Carney's blind acceptance of "climate" change for example has become his world view.

Education is often where the strings for the puppet masters are attached. The strings are all the unquestioned assumptions that children build their world view on. They are in agreement with the truth of these strings- climate change, evolution, etc. Bit by bit the children are taught to accept the assumptions, not to think critically. By the time they reach the world stage if they are a leader, these strings are part of them.



Some fall out of the mold, and begin to question what they were taught. Jordan Peterson thinks that way. It's why he is so interesting to listen to as he explains what he thinks and how he got there.

It gets downright upsetting to the "establishment" to use that old hippy term. Which is why his psychiatric license was revoked in Canada I think. And he was Trudeau's nemesis and had to leave Canada or suffer the fate of a trucker.




The problem with questioning what the group has decided to think is that you become a threat.

When you become a threat to others they react with unreasonable anger because it's like you are dangling them over a cliff.

They are terrified of where your thoughts might take them. Whether it's theology that makes them question their assumptions, or politics that makes them examine their assumptions, you are challenging their assumptions. That is scary. You are shaking their very foundations. It's why the church people had Wycliffe burnt at the stake. It's why the Catholic church was responsible for so many martyrs- more than ancient Rome.



That unease goes a million times more if we are sharing our faith with an unbeliever.

Think of it this way. When we share Christ with people they have 2 responses. Some look up with dawning hope, others react as if you were dangling them over the fires of hell. (they will do anything to get you to shut up fast- throw a fit, scream, yell, walk away fast, avoid you whatever it takes.)

Look quickly at 2 Corinthians 2:14-17 for WHY. Paul says it really really well.

14 Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place.
15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing.
16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things?
17 For we are not, as so many, peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.

So to some we are the fragrance of Christ- and to others we are the stench of death.



How I look at stuff right now is this

The world is a stage. Shakespeare was right about that. Everyone is passing thru - some choose Christ, others choose hell by default. There's a lot of noise, a lot of demonic screeching to distract.

But if you look at the major players- you begin to almost see the puppet strings as the Prince of the Power of the Air manipulates them. They act willingly, they've grown up believing the puppet masters and strings don't exist anymore than God does. They were primed to believe whatever lie Satan fed them so that they would launch that lie into the public sphere. That's how Darwin wrote his theory of Evolution. Marx invented Communism. Some of them definitely commune with fallen angels but not all.

Above it all, outside the noise and the fray, look up further and you'll see the Hand of The Restrainer at work. Sometimes restraining, sometimes allowing.



The script is in the Bible, in prophecy but it doesn't always go the way we think.

So reading the Word gives us the wisdom from above,

James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

And the more we read the Word and believe the Author, and trust in Him, the more we see the truth.

When we see and are changed by the truth of the Word of God (even if we don't understand all prophecy or all theology) we look back and marvel at how incredibly deluded the leaders of this world (and their puppet masters) are.

Their delusion makes no sense. It's irrational. But it exists.

Because when we begin to have the mind of Christ, we begin to understand the depth that we were once deluded by, and that those still stuck in unbelief are subject to.
 
And the more we read the Word and believe the Author, and trust in Him, the more we see the truth.

When we see and are changed by the truth of the Word of God (even if we don't understand all prophecy or all theology) we look back and marvel at how incredibly deluded the leaders of this world (and their puppet masters) are.

Their delusion makes no sense. It's irrational. But it exists.

Because when we begin to have the mind of Christ, we begin to understand the depth that we were once deluded by, and that those still stuck in unbelief are subject to.
Thank you Margery, your view is better than what I was thinking.

I’m reminded of Daniel 4 where King Nebuchadnezzar has his second dream and Daniel’s response:
19Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonished for a time, and his thoughts troubled him. So the king spoke, and said, “Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its interpretation trouble you.”

Belteshazzar answered and said, “My lord, may the dream concern those who hate you, and its interpretation concern your enemies!

I don't see …Elon Musk, … as low IQ.
I pray for Musk, often. When you threw his name in there my perspective shifted. Regarding the Bill Gates and Yuval Noah Hariris of this world, I had developed a calloused and insulted view. Now I see them as puppets.

Touching on Daniel, he dreaded where King Nebuchadnezzar was headed, and wouldn’t have thought the king was dumbed down, but did advise him with this:
27Therefore, O king, let my advice be acceptable to you; break off your sins by being righteous, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor. Perhaps there may be a lengthening of your prosperity.”

:thankyou: for taking the time to help me get my perspective back to a biblical basis.
 
Regarding the dumbing down in schools.............
When I was a junior in high school - many, many years ago, 1961) I was taking U.S. History. My teacher was expounding every day on not only the
required teaching but emphatically on ALL the corruption in EVERY administration throughout our history. I seriously thought he was a Communist at the time. It was about five years later, at age 22, that I said, "Thank you, Mr. Jeeter"!! No, he was a patriot who wanted to teach us kids to be aware, to use our brains to sort out what is really happening, even when it looks like it isn't. He made a major difference in my life and my views.....for the good. If he impacted me, then I know he impacted a lot of other students over the years. He didn't serve up pablum - he dished up steak, back in the day.
 
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