Biden to let Ukraine strike inside Russia with U.S. weapons

[Anastacia]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/biden-ukraine-weapons-strike-russia-00160731

“The president recently directed his team to ensure that Ukraine is able to use U.S. weapons for counter-fire purposes in Kharkiv so Ukraine can hit back at Russian forces hitting them or preparing to hit them ,” one of the U.S. officials said

...while all eyes were in the Trump trial, this happened.

 

[Anastacia]

Will anyone here [with military perspective] please explain the implications of this?

This move sounds really bad to me-- I would assume Putin would regard this as America essentially 'directly' involved. If we now tell Ukraine to go ahead and strike INSIDE Russia, isnt this pushing the war up to a bigger scale?
Won't it give Russia reason to escalate, and then the NATO countries can justify having the world war they seem to want?

 

[Margery]

Will anyone here [with military perspective] please explain the implications of this?

This move sounds really bad to me-- I would assume Putin would regard this as America essentially 'directly' involved. If we now tell Ukraine to go ahead and strike INSIDE Russia, isnt this pushing the war up to a bigger scale?
Won't it give Russia reason to escalate, and then the NATO countries can justify having the world war they seem to want?

Yes Putin would see it this way, Russian media is reporting on this as exactly that- direct involvement.

Yes I think there is escalation involved here that NATO and the warmongers seem to want. Russia has been sending warnings for several years now about their feelings and responses.

I don't have any military perspective (I'd love it if our vets would comment) but it strikes the eye rather, that Biden just stabbed Netanyahu and Israel in the back as reported in this thread here: Breaking: Biden: Israel offer is a 'historic opportunity, Hamas should take it'

It's the weapons --

Biden holds onto weapons and spare parts bought and paid for by Israel, to force Israel's hand. So he's wiggled out of his legally binding commitment to never withhold arms shipments to Israel under any circumstances in time of war for Israel. He uses those weapons as hostage material to force Israel to do whatever Biden wants in Gaza.

BUT

Biden gives weapons free of charge to Ukraine to attack Russia.

So he steals Israel's property (bought and paid for, produced by American manufacturers) to force Israel to divide the land (give back control of Gaza again to Hamas)

and he gives weapons freely to Ukraine to attack Russia on her home soil using Ukraine as a proxy thus ensuring Russian wrath.

This is not going to end well. We know God will protect Israel, and we also know there is a direct link between serious events affecting America and the 2 State "solutions" being forced on Israel to divide the land God gave them. Bill Koenig outlines this well in his books, the first of which was Eye to Eye in which he covered past "peace" talks forcing Israel to give up land and various disasters on American soil. Usually there is a link between the problem in Israel and the problem in America.

The link here is the weapons.

We know that Russia survives to be a force to be reckoned with by the time of Ezek 38. We know that Israel survives everything including Ezek 38. We know that America ( whether you see Tarshish as England as I do, or Spain, either way America is a cub) survives but in a weakened state to ask that weak question of Russia in Ezek 38 "have you come for spoil"

So looking at the Bible we know that sometime in the nearish future:
America survives in a weakened state
Russia survives as a powerful world player (nobody gets in her way in the Ezek 38 invasion)
And Israel survives all of it.

From previous discussions I think Ezek 38 is after the Rapture so I think what we are seeing is just getting the Tribulation and Post Rapture period furniture in place before the curtain (and the church) goes up to kick off the final 7 years (with the possibility of an unknown period of time after the Rapture and before the Tribulation).

The closer we get the more we see.

So what this says to me is we are getting ever closer to the Rapture and we are bumping up to some of these post Rapture events so close we can almost reach out and touch them. With the caveat that I don't know for sure if Ezek 38 really is post Rapture like I think.

But this is definitely moving Russia into position for her appearance in Ezek 38. She HAS to gain power. America HAS to be unable or unwilling to come to Israel's defence.

 

[Spartan Sprinter]

Yes Putin would see it this way, Russian media is reporting on this as exactly that- direct involvement.

Yes I think there is escalation involved here that NATO and the warmongers seem to want. Russia has been sending warnings for several years now about their feelings and responses.

I don't have any military perspective (I'd love it if our vets would comment) but it strikes the eye rather, that Biden just stabbed Netanyahu and Israel in the back as reported in this thread here: Breaking: Biden: Israel offer is a 'historic opportunity, Hamas should take it'

It's the weapons --

Biden holds onto weapons and spare parts bought and paid for by Israel, to force Israel's hand. So he's wiggled out of his legally binding commitment to never withhold arms shipments to Israel under any circumstances in time of war for Israel. He uses those weapons as hostage material to force Israel to do whatever Biden wants in Gaza.

BUT

Biden gives weapons free of charge to Ukraine to attack Russia.

So he steals Israel's property (bought and paid for, produced by American manufacturers) to force Israel to divide the land (give back control of Gaza again to Hamas)

and he gives weapons freely to Ukraine to attack Russia on her home soil using Ukraine as a proxy thus ensuring Russian wrath.

This is not going to end well. We know God will protect Israel, and we also know there is a direct link between serious events affecting America and the 2 State "solutions" being forced on Israel to divide the land God gave them. Bill Koenig outlines this well in his books, the first of which was Eye to Eye in which he covered past "peace" talks forcing Israel to give up land and various disasters on American soil. Usually there is a link between the problem in Israel and the problem in America.

The link here is the weapons.

We know that Russia survives to be a force to be reckoned with by the time of Ezek 38. We know that Israel survives everything including Ezek 38. We know that America ( whether you see Tarshish as England as I do, or Spain, either way America is a cub) survives but in a weakened state to ask that weak question of Russia in Ezek 38 "have you come for spoil"

So looking at the Bible we know that sometime in the nearish future:
America survives in a weakened state
Russia survives as a powerful world player (nobody gets in her way in the Ezek 38 invasion)
And Israel survives all of it.

From previous discussions I think Ezek 38 is after the Rapture so I think what we are seeing is just getting the Tribulation and Post Rapture period furniture in place before the curtain (and the church) goes up to kick off the final 7 years (with the possibility of an unknown period of time after the Rapture and before the Tribulation).

The closer we get the more we see.

So what this says to me is we are getting ever closer to the Rapture and we are bumping up to some of these post Rapture events so close we can almost reach out and touch them. With the caveat that I don't know for sure if Ezek 38 really is post Rapture like I think.

But this is definitely moving Russia into position for her appearance in Ezek 38. She HAS to gain power. America HAS to be unable or unwilling to come to Israel's defence.

Is it me or do both Iran and Russia appear weak at the moment?

Although Iran has its proxies, their country is internally divided anda majorityof its citizens don't go along with the rhetoric of their leadership.

Russia is doing a barely convincing job in the Ukraine as well.

On the timeline we're on, it's an interesting things that make you go hmmmm pause.

I guess in the Lord's timing, he has waaayyyy left field ways of making his word come into fulfillment that most times we just don't see coming.

This is one small point that i agree with John Haller in that fulfillment of prophecy is never straight forward in terms of how it pans out.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I don't think now is the time to let our guard down.

We still haven't seen the Russian USSR professional Army. Where are they, and what are they mobilized and preparing for???

This inhabitant in a land of unwalled villages would like to know


10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
Ezekiel 38:10-13,KJV

 

[Anastacia]

I'm in awe, excited, and a bit unnerved, by how intense things are getting from America meddling in so many wars (Ukraine/Russia and Israel).


**I just need to say that I didnt mean to sound like I only want military vet's opinions! I just meant that anyone who understands military and war would likely see the implications of the moves Biden is making... whereas I usually need help connecting the dots.

@Margery mentioned MonkeyWerx's 2/28 Sitrep about Biden pushing us toward war to possibly prevent the POTUS election from happening. I've listened to him for a quite some time, and his content fascinates me but half of what he says goes over my head. But, even Don Trump Jr was talking about Biden getting us into a war before Nov. So this "permission" given to Ukraine to use weapons inside Russia really made me wonder if that is actually a step in that direction.

I dont try to guess what comes next but I enjoy it when others with understanding do! And I sure appreciate the reminder that Israel survives it all, Ezekiel is on the horizon, and we're out of here soon! Ghoti had an interesting point about where all the Russian troops currently are... hmmm! I just wonder how much we'll see! Now these direct energy weapons or whatever it is Russia put up into orbit, and Iran losing Raisi et al plus failing in their strike on Israel-- !

Anyways, I'm so grateful for all that I learn from everyone here, and how to see it in light of prophecy!

 

[TCC]

Hi Anastacia. Thanks for this post. I was going to post about it but saw you already did . My take in general is that it seems that the globalist entities want to stir WW3. They want that because they need to move beyond a failing Central Banking system and not get blamed for it. War covers and then some. To me it is: Since COVID lockdowns were lifted and the world is not economically damaged unrepairable by shutdowns, WW3 is needed to orchestrate a global monetary reset. With this being most exposed in the USA, the US needs to be in WW3 ASAP from a globalist standpoint. So it makes sense Biden wants to poke to Russian Bear.

On a TwlightZone take, perhaps Russia and China (having interests to further dominate world economics) understand that globalist crime syndicates are the enemy of our enemies. And therefore for the time being Russia and China might have interests to disinfect globalism so their "nations" can then go onto emperialize. No notation, no empire making. So in short the tension seems to be between WW3 and peace at the moment moving into 2025. If that makes sense? Blessings.

 

[Margery]

Is it me or do both Iran and Russia appear weak at the moment?

Although Iran has its proxies, their country is internally divided anda majorityof its citizens don't go along with the rhetoric of their leadership.

Russia is doing a barely convincing job in the Ukraine as well.

On the timeline we're on, it's an interesting things that make you go hmmmm pause.

I guess in the Lord's timing, he has waaayyyy left field ways of making his word come into fulfillment that most times we just don't see coming.

This is one small point that i agree with John Haller in that fulfillment of prophecy is never straight forward in terms of how it pans out.

Iran and Russia are in weakened positions

Russia is busy taxing the daylights out of it's citizens who are getting cranky about war, taxes and the general situation but not enough to do anything like launch a revolution. Putin just replaced his top general Shoigu (a hardboiled tough one) in favour of an economic type who might be able to run the war on a budget.

On the flip side, Ukraine is running out of men for the army and relying more on drones and weapons but they are slowly losing the war. Russia is using the NATO situation to encourage Russians against the west's meddling. Biden isn't helping. I like @TCC 's thoughts on that.

Iran just embarrassed itself with it's performance with Israel and now there is internal stuff to deal with the dead president and they are facing growing internal dissent against the never ending bloody rule of the mullahs.

I think with both countries, God is slowing them down a little. They aren't being allowed to surge ahead and do all they want. I think it comes down to watching The Restrainer. I know I go on about it, but that is the one singular reason we haven't seen Iran nuke her neighbourhood, both Saudi Arabia and Israel being in her gun sights. I think it's why Russia is bogged down. Whenever she does invade Israel there seems to be a desire for spoil on Russia's part as well as Iran.

With America, she has to weaken to the point where she doesn't even pretend to come to Israel's defence and Israel isn't quite at that point where she dwells in careless ease unsuspecting of the Gog Magog invasion. Israel might be getting there slowly as she settles the hash of her restless angry neighbours in Gaza, Lebanon and the "West Bank". Jordan and Egypt are playing both sides.

Ever since Egypt disgraced itself publicly by being exposed with their Rafah crossing tunnels to re arm and re supply Hamas, it's getting more and more possible that Bill Salus's Psalm 83 war is actually happening. Certainly if you look at that Ezekiel 32:17-32 passage on terror, Egypt is in there. I still think Ezekiel 32 might be the situation Israel is dealing with or will shortly. So Psalm 83, Ezek 32 and Jeremiah 49 along with Isaiah 17 might be in progress now.

To my eyes, the key player was Egypt. Both for Ezek 32:17-32 and Psalm 83. It still might not be, but the picture is looking very similar now.

And you are right- the fulfillment of prophecy is never quite what most of us were expecting. I just look at the few brave souls in prophecy circles before 1948 who were ridiculed for believing that Israel would come back as a nation.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Russia Warns America to Expect Retaliation After Kyiv's Attack on Crimea With US-Supplied Missile​

Russia vowed to retaliate against the United States over a Ukrainian strike on Sunday that killed at least four people, including two children, and injured 151 others.

The attack on Sevastopol used U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles and Russian officials said "all flight data was entered by US military crews based on US reconnaissance satellite inputs. A Global Hawk US reconnaissance drone was on duty off Crimea."

Russia's Foreign Ministry summoned U.S. Ambassador Lynne Tracy after the incident and claimed Washington was "waging a hybrid war against Russia and has actually become a party to the conflict." The Kremlin vowed that “retaliatory measures will definitely follow.”

Russia Warns America to Expect Retaliation After Kyiv's Attack on Crimea With US-Supplied Missile

townhall.com

 

[Andy C]

Yes Putin would see it this way, Russian media is reporting on this as exactly that- direct involvement.

Yes I think there is escalation involved here that NATO and the warmongers seem to want. Russia has been sending warnings for several years now about their feelings and responses.

I don't have any military perspective (I'd love it if our vets would comment) but it strikes the eye rather, that Biden just stabbed Netanyahu and Israel in the back as reported in this thread here: Breaking: Biden: Israel offer is a 'historic opportunity, Hamas should take it'

It's the weapons --

Biden holds onto weapons and spare parts bought and paid for by Israel, to force Israel's hand. So he's wiggled out of his legally binding commitment to never withhold arms shipments to Israel under any circumstances in time of war for Israel. He uses those weapons as hostage material to force Israel to do whatever Biden wants in Gaza.

BUT

Biden gives weapons free of charge to Ukraine to attack Russia.

So he steals Israel's property (bought and paid for, produced by American manufacturers) to force Israel to divide the land (give back control of Gaza again to Hamas)

and he gives weapons freely to Ukraine to attack Russia on her home soil using Ukraine as a proxy thus ensuring Russian wrath.

This is not going to end well. We know God will protect Israel, and we also know there is a direct link between serious events affecting America and the 2 State "solutions" being forced on Israel to divide the land God gave them. Bill Koenig outlines this well in his books, the first of which was Eye to Eye in which he covered past "peace" talks forcing Israel to give up land and various disasters on American soil. Usually there is a link between the problem in Israel and the problem in America.

The link here is the weapons.

We know that Russia survives to be a force to be reckoned with by the time of Ezek 38. We know that Israel survives everything including Ezek 38. We know that America ( whether you see Tarshish as England as I do, or Spain, either way America is a cub) survives but in a weakened state to ask that weak question of Russia in Ezek 38 "have you come for spoil"

So looking at the Bible we know that sometime in the nearish future:
America survives in a weakened state
Russia survives as a powerful world player (nobody gets in her way in the Ezek 38 invasion)
And Israel survives all of it.

From previous discussions I think Ezek 38 is after the Rapture so I think what we are seeing is just getting the Tribulation and Post Rapture period furniture in place before the curtain (and the church) goes up to kick off the final 7 years (with the possibility of an unknown period of time after the Rapture and before the Tribulation).

The closer we get the more we see.

So what this says to me is we are getting ever closer to the Rapture and we are bumping up to some of these post Rapture events so close we can almost reach out and touch them. With the caveat that I don't know for sure if Ezek 38 really is post Rapture like I think.

But this is definitely moving Russia into position for her appearance in Ezek 38. She HAS to gain power. America HAS to be unable or unwilling to come to Israel's defence.

Good post.

Russia has said since the beginning of their invasion that any help from western nations will trigger dire consequences. Putin also said continued supply of weapons to Ukraine from western nations would also cross a line. Yet, he has not directly responded because IMO, he cant. He knows he would lose, and lose quickly in a direct conflict with NATO.

I believe the only way the USA is completely weakened is the rapture. After the rapture, Russia will be less affected, and ready to turn towards Israel for Ez 38-39. We dont know from scripture how long after the rapture it will take until the tribulation begins. But I suspect there will be more than enough time for the invaders of Israel to form, and proceed.

 

[Andy C]

Russia Warns America to Expect Retaliation After Kyiv's Attack on Crimea With US-Supplied Missile​

Russia vowed to retaliate against the United States over a Ukrainian strike on Sunday that killed at least four people, including two children, and injured 151 others.

The attack on Sevastopol used U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles and Russian officials said "all flight data was entered by US military crews based on US reconnaissance satellite inputs. A Global Hawk US reconnaissance drone was on duty off Crimea."

Russia's Foreign Ministry summoned U.S. Ambassador Lynne Tracy after the incident and claimed Washington was "waging a hybrid war against Russia and has actually become a party to the conflict." The Kremlin vowed that “retaliatory measures will definitely follow.”

Russia Warns America to Expect Retaliation After Kyiv's Attack on Crimea With US-Supplied Missile

townhall.com

From a famous quote from the Seinfeld show “yada yada yada”.

Putin has vowed so many times to take action, he cant even afford to buy another vowel from Wheel of Fortune.

 

[TCC]

Russia Warns America to Expect Retaliation After Kyiv's Attack on Crimea With US-Supplied Missile​

Russia vowed to retaliate against the United States over a Ukrainian strike on Sunday that killed at least four people, including two children, and injured 151 others.

The attack on Sevastopol used U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles and Russian officials said "all flight data was entered by US military crews based on US reconnaissance satellite inputs. A Global Hawk US reconnaissance drone was on duty off Crimea."

Russia's Foreign Ministry summoned U.S. Ambassador Lynne Tracy after the incident and claimed Washington was "waging a hybrid war against Russia and has actually become a party to the conflict." The Kremlin vowed that “retaliatory measures will definitely follow.”

Russia Warns America to Expect Retaliation After Kyiv's Attack on Crimea With US-Supplied Missile

townhall.com

WW3 seems to be on schedule. Blessings.

 

[Andiamo]

Biden…the President that gets the USA into WWIII.
I would like to leave now.

 

[Andiamo]

Actually, talking puppethead didn’t actually do this.

 

[Andiamo]

From a famous quote from the Seinfeld show “yada yada yada”.

Putin has vowed so many times to take action, he cant even afford to buy another vowel from Wheel of Fortune.

I think he might do it this time. He is now bolstered by Iran, China and North Korea.
Maranatha. Thank You Lord that nothing will happen outside of Your Will and that nothing can separate us from the Love of Christ. Not persecution or famine or nakedness or peril or sword.

 

[Andy C]

I think he might do it this time. He is now bolstered by Iran, China and North Korea.
Maranatha. Thank You Lord that nothing will happen outside of Your Will and that nothing can separate us from the Love of Christ. Not persecution or famine or nakedness or peril or sword.

He certainly could, which will be a big mistake on his part. Putin knows with his inability to defeat a much smaller nation, that the world looks upon Russia as a bear with no killer bite. This is a perception he will likely want to change. After all, he is a shirtless bare back rider on horses….

 

[Andiamo]

Well, maybe he will settle on a cyber attack of some kind.