Beijing First? Canada's PM Carney Opens The Doors To Chinese EVs

[Hol]

The invasion of Chinese electric vehicles into North America is set to accelerate after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney agreed to roll back the triple-digit tariffs previously imposed on Chinese EVs. The move sharply diverges from President Trump's America First policy, which aims to revitalize the North American auto industry. While Chinese EVs remain effectively blocked from US import, there has been a noticeable increase in BYD Motor vehicles on highways in Mexico.

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, who appears to have deep ties with Beijing, was the first prime minister to visit China since 2017 and is seeking a major thaw in relations after years of tense diplomatic and trade ties.

Carney's move abandons the 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs imposed by former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in 2024, replacing them with a 6.1% rate capped at 49,000 Chinese EVs. In 2023, China exported 41,678 EVs to Canada. The shift in trade policy will certainly capture the Trump administration's attention.

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[Tall Timbers]

Canada and EVs don't seem like a good mix... Condolences to Canadians who purchase them.

 

[Hol]

Canada and EVs don't seem like a good mix... Condolences to Canadians who purchase them.

I was thinking the same thing. Batteries drain more quickly in freezing temps and are shorter lived. I almost bought a new EV with a long warranty. I had to dig it out of the salesman that the batteries were not warranteed.

 

[Margery]

That is expected. It's part of the warming ties to China as a result of the tariff wars. China agreed to buy a lot of stuff we produce, it's been a while so I forget exactly what, but it's a trade deal. Hammered out late last spring, early summer.

That doesn't mean people will actually buy those things, just that they will essentially replace the market for Elon Musk's Tesla versions made in the States. Just like the Chinese are allowing entry to our goods whatever they are, but Chinese people can buy them or not.

I expect the usual greenies in Vancouver and Vancouver Island will be their main customers. Outside that banana belt, it's highly unlikely they will sell. And coming from China, they have to overcome a certain expectation of poor quality.

When we helped Trump in his first term back in 2018/19 by arresting that Huawei executive daughter of the founder on Trumps request under the extradition treaty we have with the US, he stalled out on taking her into custody, leaving Canada holding her, and a bunch of problems resulted. The Huawei Crisis: Canada as a Proxy in US-China Relations - Canadian International Council

China kidnapped a few of our people and held them till the situation ended in a stalemate, and we gave her back to China and got our diplomats back, and Trump never did take custody of her as requested in the first place.

Then there is the ongoing issue of Chinese interference with our elections, federal, provincial and even in the city of Vancouver's mayoral race.

Carney is using this to restart Canada China relations.

 

[dwb]

The car prices are just outrageous. It's a sad commentary when the average American cannot afford to buy a new car. Even the cheaper models are too high for most people. Most car payments are about $500 per month, I've bought cars for less that that in my younger days.

So, if China can make a car better and cheaper than the U.S., Germany, Korea, or Japan, let the market decide. I think the safety and emission requirements drive the costs so high, plus all the electronic gadgets you don't really need.

 

[Tall Timbers]

So, if China can make a car better and cheaper than the U.S., Germany, Korea, or Japan, let the market decide. I think the safety and emission requirements drive the costs so high, plus all the electronic gadgets you don't really need.

There are a lot of chips in new vehicles and Chinese chips have a pretty poor reputation.

 

[Margery]

George worked for BC Hydro our electric utility in my province. They had a short lived experiment with some heavy equipment that they bought from a Chinese manufacturer in China. It was going to be cheaper.

The specifications were very very well spelled out in the contract and Hydro was assured that there would be no problem. These were huge things, they were shipped in from China, then were installed and they all failed spectacularly. I can't remember what they were exactly. The size of a small house.

They were NOT built to spec, the manufacturer took shortcuts, and didn't follow the design limitations. Engineering was furious, the cost to remove and replace was a problem and China ended up living up to their reputation.

End of contract, no more Chinese supplier.

 

[Tall Timbers]

End of contract, no more Chinese supplier.

If China ever uses their nukes I wonder how many will actually work.

 

[Margery]

If China ever uses their nukes I wonder how many will actually work.

Love that! HOW TRUE!

So tongue firmly in cheek here- maybe this is why China isn't in the Ezek 38 line up. They get mad and try to get even and it all goes terribly wrong!