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“Partial Rapture”

Amethyst

† He hath shed his own blood for my soul
Amir addressed those who say he falsely promotes a partial rapture

What is your opinion about what he says here?



A SHORT message from me to you:

If you believe the phenomenon of woke conservatives is merely political in nature, it is time to abandon that assumption.

I am deeply convinced that God is actively carrying out a symbolic separation, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. The physical separation at the end of the Tribulation will determine who is permitted to enter His thousand-year, literal Kingdom on earth. What we are witnessing today, however, is a spiritual separation - one that reveals who will soon be taken.

What is striking is that in both instances, the way people relate to Israel serves as a mirror of their spiritual condition and of their understanding of the Holy One of Israel - Yeshua, the Messiah.

I do not believe in a partial rapture. I believe in the rapture of the true followers of the Messiah - those who genuinely know Him and share His heart. As He Himself said: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”

To hate the Jewish people and to accuse them of every evil in the world is not to do the will of the God of Israel.

Therefore, my message to you, my dear friends, is this: do not fall into the schemes of the devil. Do not proclaim “Christ is King” while living and speaking in ways that contradict His heart and His character. Study the Scriptures and discover the heart of the God of Israel toward His chosen nation. See how He calls His grafted-in people to love, pray for, and intercede on behalf of Israel - so that they may come to know their Messiah.

Stand firm. Do not fear swimming against the current of this world. Remain anchored in the Word and aligned with the will of the Holy One of Israel.

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I think this is one of those areas where sometimes he gets a little off. His followup post was more concerning:

"How tragic it is that so many who call themselves “conservative Christians” are the foolish virgins who will be left behind - crying out, “Lord, Lord, open to us!” - only to hear Him answer, “Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.”

That may be true in some cases for other reasons, but I think what he's warning about is a symptom, not the disease itself. And he isn't making allowance for the possibility that some people can be blood bought believers and still be sincerely wrong about Israel. Only God knows if they're saved. We all struggle with different sins... why would this topic be different? If you're saved, you're going.

I wish he just said to examine yourself and Scripture and left the rest to God.
 
Amir is wrong.

While Christians should know the Bible, many don't. The saved go up in the Rapture.

The saved NOT THE PERFECT!

The saved go up. ALL of them. No legal loopholes and exceptions that say only those with a good understanding of Israel.

The 10 virgins are not about the Rapture. The bride and groom are at the wedding, the guests are arriving. The virgins refer to those Tribulation saints especially in Israel- those who believed during the Trib and are welcomed in, those who suddenly were found at the end, without having believed.
 
Amir is wrong.

While Christians should know the Bible, many don't. The saved go up in the Rapture.

The saved NOT THE PERFECT!

The saved go up. ALL of them. No legal loopholes and exceptions that say only those with a good understanding of Israel.

The 10 virgins are not about the Rapture. The bride and groom are at the wedding, the guests are arriving. The virgins refer to those Tribulation saints especially in Israel- those who believed during the Trib and are welcomed in, those who suddenly were found at the end, without having believed.
Hmm. I understood it differently. Of course, I'm not following Amir, so there might be more that I'm missing, but he said clearly that he doesn't believe in a partial rapture. What I understood, was that not everyone who claims to be Christian, is a blood bought saved Christian. That those who are not will be left behind, like the virgins, and then he exhorted the saved to be in their Bibles to not fall for the delusion around them.

And I do agree that we are seeing a sifting in this generation. The contrast grows starker every day- those that believe in the Bible as the Word of God, and those that have replaced it with their own ideas of what is right and wrong, making their own "Jesus" to follow. And those people do tend to hate Israel. How "Christians" relate to Israel is a fairly good litmus test (not perfect).

I've seen Amir go off the rails. I've pretty much quit following him because of it. But I am more inclined to believe that he is just expressing himself badly here.
 
Hmm. I understood it differently. Of course, I'm not following Amir, so there might be more that I'm missing, but he said clearly that he doesn't believe in a partial rapture. What I understood, was that not everyone who claims to be Christian, is a blood bought saved Christian. That those who are not will be left behind, like the virgins, and then he exhorted the saved to be in their Bibles to not fall for the delusion around them.

And I do agree that we are seeing a sifting in this generation. The contrast grows starker every day- those that believe in the Bible as the Word of God, and those that have replaced it with their own ideas of what is right and wrong, making their own "Jesus" to follow. And those people do tend to hate Israel. How "Christians" relate to Israel is a fairly good litmus test (not perfect).

I've seen Amir go off the rails. I've pretty much quit following him because of it. But I am more inclined to believe that he is just expressing himself badly here.
Agree…context of all he said is key

And that would be why I didn't go any further than responding to what he wrote in the OP.

Because I'm on a social media/news break right now, ignoring all my favourite YT preachers and teachers and everything related to the news and how stuff might relate to prophecy.

My response was based purely on
What we are witnessing today, however, is a spiritual separation - one that reveals who will soon be taken.

What is striking is that in both instances, the way people relate to Israel serves as a mirror of their spiritual condition and of their understanding of the Holy One of Israel - Yeshua, the Messiah.

I do not believe in a partial rapture. I believe in the rapture of the true followers of the Messiah - those who genuinely know Him and share His heart. As He Himself said: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”

To hate the Jewish people and to accuse them of every evil in the world is not to do the will of the God of Israel.

Therefore, my message to you, my dear friends, is this: do not fall into the schemes of the devil. Do not proclaim “Christ is King” while living and speaking in ways that contradict His heart and His character. Study the Scriptures and discover the heart of the God of Israel toward His chosen nation. See how He calls His grafted-in people to love, pray for, and intercede on behalf of Israel - so that they may come to know their Messiah.

Stand firm. Do not fear swimming against the current of this world. Remain anchored in the Word and aligned with the will of the Holy One of Israel.

its the implication that those who do His will are those who go in the Rapture, that there aren't also Christians who are antisemitic (and I know there are) who are fully saved, but not fully sanctified where their understanding of Israel sits.

It's that first bit about spiritual separation that reveals who will soon be taken- combined with the idea of the 10 virgins, 5 being left behind. Then his idea that how we would know the difference, by how they'd see Israel.
 
its the implication that those who do His will are those who go in the Rapture, that there aren't also Christians who are antisemitic (and I know there are) who are fully saved, but not fully sanctified where their understanding of Israel sits.
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I do understand why Messianic Jews may feel it’s pivotal, especially with all of the rise in anti-semitism. And it will be the litmus test during the sheep and goats judgement.

It’s a sanctification issue.

I love what Pastor John Clark says: “Heaven is not a reward for the righteous: It is a gift for the guilty.”
 
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